Why are so many people assuming the Democrats will the next presidential election?

Question

I'm a Democrat, but I really think that if we cave on the Iraq war funding and withdrawal issues we will also LOSE the election. Even if you don't like, believe or trust a lot of the Republican candidates, you might not vote for Democrats you see as incompetent, weak and stupid. The question is - which is worse, poor and evil leadership or no leadership at all? I think this was a set up from the start.
What is your opinion? Can you express it without being abusive and personally insulting?

Answer 1

As an Independent, I am open to voting for whomever will best serve the country...I don't care about the party.
From where I stand, barring a major turn-around in the way the Dems are running Congress, I think it will be virtually impossible for the Dems to win the Whitehouse in '08.
What should have been a sure thing is quickly turning into an unattainable goal.
At the end of the day, we are at war.
Pulling out of Iraq will not change that.
Pretending everything is honky-dory just by ignoring it is NOT a solution.
Americans need a war-time president in times of war.
Hillary is not a steadfast, honest person.
She appears to be a typical oportunist politician who alters her 'stand' depending on daily polling data.
In these dangerous times, that is NOT the type of candidate that will be elected. It would be disastrous.
Funny but many liberals think that the Dems can't win UNLESS they de-fund the war and cripple the war effort, in fact, if they DID do that, they'd have absolutely zero chance of retaining their own majority, never mind the Whitehouse.
It does, however, highlight the problem the Dems have...how long can they blame Bush for a war they say they are against...but continue to finance?
If they were truly principled people, how could they continue to fund a war that is 'a grotesque mistake with no chance of success' as Ms Pelosi claims?
The answer, my friends, is that they DO NOT really believe the war is all those terrible things...they simply believe it is an opportunity to embarrass and undermine this president.
What other possible excuse could there be?
They took congress by being AGAINST everything Bush is for...that is surely not a 'platform' that we could elect a president on is it?
Every poll shows Guilliani trouncing any Dem candidate.
I know it's early, but barring something very major, my bet is that Guilliani will waltz in with a lot of disenchanted Dem votes as well as Repubs.

Answer 2

I too have thought that BushCo was setting this up -- to let congress get us out of Iraq then blame the dems and use that to win again in '08.

We can theorize this stuff until the cows come home but what we really need to do is keep working for what is right.

I learned in Bush vs Gore that I will take a weak Democrat over an untrustworthy Republican any day of the week. I learned that poor and evil leadership is the worst, we have been living with it for a while.

This is not abusive, I am using your words.

Also, so far the Republicans don't have a single candidate that I could ever vote for.

Answer 3

Ouch! It's hard to choose between poor and evil leadership or no leadership! You highly exaggerate, but I see your point.

I do not think this was a setup from the start, that level of indirection and manipulation is just too incomprehensible -- for its unpredictability, if no other reason.

But I agree with most of what you said. At this point, I can see some Republicans voting Democrat just to have a Democrat preside over the ultimate failure that is very likely ahead.

But I think it is going to be a very ugly election; the nation is already highly polarized, and the division runs along party lines, which is very unfortunate. With the partisans comprising roughly 50% each, and the nation's future truly at stake, you would think these bozos would hammer out a speedy and effective compromise strategy NOW, and just do it. But apparently, compromise is unpopular right now. Each side is holding out for a win AGAINST THE OTHER! instead of the perceived enemy!

Ugh. I'm depressing myself.

Answer 4

I'm a conservative independent who will not be voting Republican or Democrat, but I don't think it is a sure lock on who is going to win the election. I think Obama has a better chance then Hillary. She is too polarizing. It all depends on what tricks get pulled 30 days out. Right now the Democrats are feeling good about themselves because they won the last election and Bush is unpopular. What they don't realize is that Bush isn't going to be up for a vote in the next election, and people have a short memory.

Answer 5

Many would vote for Bu$h returned in the event that they might. They love conflict, they love killing. They help ending S.S. and $3 hundred billion in debt each and each 3 hundred and sixty 5 days, additionally they help tax cuts for the wealthy which will upload $70 billion a three hundred and sixty 5 days to the debt. additionally they help spending $2 trillion over the subsequent 10 years in Iraq. The working type will pay that invoice no longer those making over $4 hundred,000 a three hundred and sixty 5 days. they're the Neocons, "conservatives".

Answer 6

Just a thought, but Bush has very low approval ratings, and they have not risen.

Every President that had low approval ratings (1952, 1968, 1932, and 1992..and now 2008) during election years, the result was the opposing party won the election.

Answer 7

I don't think many actually do think the Democrats will get it. It's been common knowledge that they had 2 yrs to prove themselves and so far they haven't done anything to impressive except to self destruct over the war issue. And while the Republican candidates aren't anything to brag about the Democratic ones are being slammed by their own people. I don't see a set up but I see a lack of reality.

Answer 8

I don't know what else you want them to do about Iraq. The house just voted to remove the troops in 2008. There are some limitations to the process.
I want to see them tackle illegal immigration and globalization. I want to see if they are going to respond to the will of the people in those areas.
I also can't understand why Hillary clinton is saying that she'd implement universal health care by the end of her 2nd term.
What's the problem? She had a proposal 13 years ago! I've seen that movie before.

Answer 9

If the Democratic leadership does NOT try as hard as they can to get the troops out of Iraq, they will lose BIG.

Answer 10

The Democrats may win the next pres. election. I can't imagine, with all the indictments and hearings.... and Republics still marching in lockstep that a 30% approval rating will give them anything close to a win in the next election cycle. No matter who the ruling party, we citizens must be ever vigilant for corruption of our political process.