Why do detractors of Global Warming say there is no science to support it.?

Question

I find it very amusing at how ignorant these people are of the actual scientific work going on that places real importance on this issue. It's not political at all, its the freaking truth. C02 is a greehouse gas, just look at the cloud covered atmosphere of Venus for a clue as to what happens when C02 is a main component of an atmosphere. However for all those that don't think there is a credible body of scientists working on this issue try looking at the souce I've cited below. And if you have an equally compelling and credible source made up of a consortium of over 2000 scientists, I may give you best answer.

http://www.ipcc.ch/

For the lazy people who talk ish:

The IPCC consists of

-2500+ scientific expert reviewers
-850+ Contributing authors
-450+ lead authors
-from over 130 countries, contributing for the last 6 years.

-of these, the contributors to the Working group 1 report (including the summary for policy makers) included [8]

-600 authors from 40 countries
-Over 620 expert reviewers
-a large number of government reviewers
-epresentatives from 113 governments

MoltarRocks:

Mars is getting warmer lol, sources please.

This one discounts that statement
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=192

sgreger1:

How credible is that report, it seems the sources are made from a lot of older books and not current research. And seriously, do you think that we should keep burning fossil fuels with uchecked abandon?

Venus is closer to the sun yes, but its completely covered by clouds.

Here's a little info on Venus:

The enormously CO2-rich atmosphere generates a strong greenhouse effect that raises the surface temperature to over 400 °C. This makes Venus' surface hotter than Mercury's, even though Venus is nearly twice as distant from the Sun and receives only 25% of the solar irradiance.


Cloud structure in Venus' atmosphere, revealed by ultraviolet observationsStudies have suggested that several billion years ago Venus' atmosphere was much more like Earth's than it is now, and that there were probably substantial quantities of liquid water on the surface, but a runaway greenhouse effect was caused by the evaporation of that original water, which generated a critical level of greenhouse gases in its atmosphere. Venus is thus an extreme example of climate change, making it a useful tool in climate change studies.

Sorry a little screw up on the copy n paste:

Studies have suggested that several billion years ago Venus' atmosphere was much more like Earth's than it is now, and that there were probably substantial quantities of liquid water on the surface, but a runaway greenhouse effect was caused by the evaporation of that original water, which generated a critical level of greenhouse gases in its atmosphere.[11] Venus is thus an extreme example of climate change, making it a useful tool in climate change studies.

Answer 1

If you read "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot", you will find a section that describes a study that showed that people who learned most of their news through talk radio were most likely think that they are well informed.

When asked factual questions, it turned out that they were the least informed. Unfortunately for the listeners, many of the stories and "facts" are made up or are inaccurate. It seems that these shows have a political agenda that brings in a big market.

Thanks for trying to bring some light to the important topic of Global Warming and Climate Change.

Answer 2

Look, the theory of what is causing Global Warming has not been determined. It may seem like a "slam, dunk", that human intervention is causing it, but that is not what a lot of brave scientists are now coming out and revealing. ("Brave" means the ones who aren't parroting the Global Warming mantra in order to advance in their field, or get funding).

Did you know that Russian Scientists are predicting a GLOBAL COOLING trend starting in 2012? No, of course you never heard of that, because, although you don't want to believe it, the Liberal Media refuses to print anything that doesn't support their view of the world. (I am very serious about this; when editors are listening to story ideas, they will bristle at the suggestion of a story that runs contrary to their paper's internal bias)

"Starting from 2012, the process of global cooling will start on the Earth and by the middle of 21st century the whole planet will be captured by low temperatures, an expert from the Russian Sciences Academy Observatory was quoted by NewsRu.com as saying "

Did you know that other planets are experiencing Global Warming? Well, that's not coming from CO2 gasses. It is coming from a temporary increase in solar radiation. I'll bet Barbra Streisand and all the other Hollywood know-nothings never heard that.

Did you know that temperatures dropped in the 1950's and 1990's, at a time when CO2 levels were increasing? I can answer that for you......... no! Why? Answer: Liberal Media.

Did you know that the Earth's temperature has only increased by 0.65 of a degree in the last 110 years? There were faster increases in temperatures around 10,000 years ago when there was no human impact. NASA has said that great temperature changes are normal. You want to dispute NASA? Oh, let's let Barbara Stresand dictate world policy. She's a rocket scientist.

Just 10,000 years ago, the earth warmed up quickly in less than 20 years. How much human impact was there back then?

How about around 700 AD? Greeland was so warm that they had a large colony there, had livestock grazing on green grass, and planted crops.

What you need to do is see a graph of the amount of CO2 produced naturally by nature, and the amount added to it by man. You will see that our contribution is a tiny sliver compared to the total. Some scientists believe that our activity is contributing slightly to Global Warming, but that the increase in solar radiation, causing the same temperature increases on other planets in our solar system, is all caused by increased solar radiation. Maybe Al Gore would like to blame George Bush for the sun's increased strength.

Ah !!!!! But what about those scary photos of glaciers melting? Did you know that around the time of the Roman Empire, the glaciers were probably SMALLER than they are today? Read this:

The Alpine glaciers are shrinking, that much we know. But new research suggests that in the time of the Roman Empire, they were smaller than today. And 7,000 years ago they probably weren't around at all. A group of climatologists have come up with a controversial new theory on how the Alps must have looked over the ages.

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So, you are wrong when you claim there is no science to support the supposition that human intervention is not the (main) cause of global warming. We are probably going through a natural cycle. Remember my citation of how warm Greeland was 700 years ago?

By the way, this might be your chance to start getting mad at the mainstream media. They play us all for fools.

Answer 3

Ok. So Global Warming is a fact.

What can we do about it?

I think it is an excercise in futility to waste your time fighting global warming.

I am pretty sure we didn't cause the last ice age. Or the one before that. Or the one before that. And eventually, we are gonna have another one. And there is nothing you can do about it.

And eventually, the Super Volcano under Yosemite is gonna blow. And there is nothing you can do about that.

And eventually, we are gonna get hit by an asteroid the size of NYC, and there is nothing you can do about that.

And before any of this matters, we are going to run out of fossil fuels. And there is nothing you can do about that. So what does it matter if we burn them like crazy for 100 years? It doesn't.

So quit with all the moralizing about how CO2 is gonna kill the planet. I assure you. We aren't going to last long enough for that to happen. This is the golden age of man, and one day, people are gonna look back and say what a great time that would have been to be alive. And you want to waste it griping about stuff you can't change.

I bet some of your scientists would agree with me... if making a lot of noise and scaring a bunch of stupid kids didn't pay their heating bills and put gas in their Volvos.

Answer 4

Seeing how much you like numbers so much, try these out.

Total CO2 in Earths atmosphere...... .5%
Temperature change in last 100 years .....1/2 of one degree
Number of differing views allowed by "scientific" minds ..0

The last time (during the middle ages) temperatures were higher on average was known as a time of plenty. Increased growing season caused record crops. And what caused the temperature spikes back then? Must have been future civilization exporting smog back in time as we all know that the only reason that things could possibly vary is because of evil man and his industrial society.

The "science" behind global warming theories should be as open to study as any other course of study. when a group says that theirs is the only truth then it is religion not science.

Their are 2 questions that will have to be honestly answered before I would give any more thought to the global warming myth.....Why do you refuse to listen to any facts that do not support your theory? and Why do you believe that global warming is a bad thing?

Answer 5

obviously, your qualifications for best answer won't happen, but I do know that it's not a denial of global warming, it's that the climate of our planet has changed dramatically in the past, well before we were emitting greenhouse gasses in the volume we now do as an industrialized world. So the debate is more WHY is global warming occuring, not IF it's occurring.

I do agree with you, but ignoring all other potential causes because we want to blame the first solution we come up with really isn't prudent either. We should take corrective steps as a planet to remedy what we see as the causes, and adjust those as more data and analysis is realized.... but don't be surprised if it turns out that science isn't always as informed as they claim, and our idea of the causes fluctuates over time.

That said, doing nothing waiting to be SURE is not a solution. Acting now on what we know to take corrective steps is the way to go. Maybe vehicle emissions aren't as harmful as we think (doubtful, I'm sure they are), but reducing them can't HURT can it?

Venus is also much closer to the sun... so not sure that's a good example.

Answer 6

Global Warming ha! Solar system warming I say! The entire solar system is heating up, from Mercury all the way out to Pluto!

Quick! Our only hope is a greenhouse effect, something that would cover the entire earth with a layer much like the glass panes on a window, which would help evenly distribute the heat throughout the entire planet! Someone do something!!!

Answer 7

Sort of like all the scientists warning of global cooling in the mid 70's,how did that work out? And if the science is so concrete why are scientists who refute these claims receiving death threats I wonder,guess somebody is not so sure about the bought and paid for voodoo science.

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Answer 8

Global warming is a fact and is a natural cycle. Scientists can be bought and used to push an agenda as well. Lets just look at the facts, leave out the politics and come to an agreement that actually benefits the earth and not politicians with an agenda of taxation and control over the masses.

Answer 9

I don't find it amusing; I find it frightening. We've lost six years letting it get worse under our current anti-science administration, and I only hope it isn't too late to fix it.

I wonder if the people running the oil industry think their money will buy them air and food once it's all been destroyed by their irresponsible greed?

To those who still won't accept that this is a real threat: if you are wrong and we do nothing we invite a worldwide disaster that will make your favorite Bible story look like a Saturday morning cartoon. If you are right and we reduce emissions anyway, ending up with cleaner air and a healthier world, why do you have a problem with that?! Are you seriously willing to risk the future of humanity, never mind the rest of the biosphere, just to save a few dollars - are you that insane??!!

Answer 10

I dont think anyone says that there is no scientific basis for it, there most definately is. However, whether it is man made, and whether or not cutting our economy to in turn cut Co2 emmissions is something that almost 20,000 scientists from around the world dont agree with. They are the minority but in the 70s the people who said by 07 we would be in an ice age were the majority also.