While Slavery is the subject why is no mention made of the people that captured and sold these pool souls?

Question

These poor people were captured by tribes from North Africa and sold. They had the help of other Africans,who were tribal enemies, who also raided and sold their fellow Africans into slavery.

Answer 1

You are right of course. It is non PC to admit that the slaves were rounded up and sold by their own people, mostly Arabs operatiing in Africa. I am not saying that the whites were not complicit in this but the unfortunate fact is that all races were involved. The fact that a British man (William Wilberforce) was instrumental in abolishing slavery is embarrassing for all those who wish for the British to prostrate themselves on the altar of apology. Let's face it, whatever else, there were no slave plantations in Britain. The problem is that history has been rewritten on this subject, and whilst were not absolved from blame it's too late now to apologise. It's also too late to apologise for the Irish potato famine - it doesn't bring them back. Perhaps the government should try apologising for modern day attrocities such as Iraq in order to save future innocent people doing it for them.

Answer 2

The tribes of North Africa were as different from each other as the "tribes" of Europe. The fact that Europeans were white never deterred them from killing and torturing each other for hundreds of years. The Armenian genocide, the Holocaust, recent events in Kosovo all indicate that greedy, ethnocentric, evil people do exist and when given an opportunity they will readily torture, kill and yes sell their fellow human beings. Especially if there is a profit involved. Why do the people of Africa have to be held up to a higher standard than Europeans used on themselves? Where there is a market people will find a way to supply that market for a profit. The drug traffic today is certainly a good example of that.

Answer 3

Depends on who you talk to as to what information is discussed about slavery. I think that people that want to purely blame American settlers do just that and don't expand the information to include all aspects of those involved in slave trade. I find that many times it is not only African tribes that are left out but also traders located in Western Europe, India, and the Middle East.

I think that most people in the US concentrate on the fact of settlers and the "white men" having slaves here because it is a history that they can connect to and even trace a personal heritage to.

That being said by the answers here it is obvious that this topic is not overlooked or lacking discussion. I know that at my university this topic was brought up in several of my history classes.

Answer 4

It may come as a surprise to some posters, but North African slavers were taking Europeans as slaves centuries before the Europeans started on the central western Africans. They raided as far away as the south coast of England as recently as 400 years ago. This was one of the reasons that the British started building a strong navy. They even took a few white Americans as slaves in the 19th century, which did not go down well in Washington. It was largely American action that finally closed down the slave markets of the "Barbary coast".

Answer 5

That argument is used to mitigate western societies complicity in one of the most horrendus crimes. It, along with other "justifications" or "arguments" made by Holocaust deniers, are just ludicrous.

In the face of 200+ years of the African slave trade, how significant do you really think African complicity is? Is it even complicity or rather duplicity? (Keep in mind that the slave trade is not new but until the 1500's, it had no singular complexion). What percentage of Africans do you really think were part of the trade? At the end of the day, who derived the most significant benefits?

But do any of these questions really matter so long as you can find just one African who sold an African slave, then I am sure in your mind, THAT justifies everything else that followed. Let's just forget about the millions of displaced people who were worked to death to benefit a society that until 40 years ago in the U.S. for example, they were not part of..........

Answer 6

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Answer 7

The reason why there has been no mention of who did these dirty deeds, in the popular press and imagination, was that there is an agenda to us past instances like this to villify the people of the white-particularly Anglo-Saxon- races who happen to be at this time in history the powers that be and the system. This is done for ideological reasons which have nothing to do with the truth. You have to actually go to the history books themselves to find these things out.

Although there were slave gathering expeditions by Europeans, most of the supply of slaves was provided by either Arab-Moorish traders, raiding parties of other tribes or sold by their own chiefs. The Europeans were exploring at the time a continent in which they knew very little about. There were powers(eg: The Ghanian Empire and the Kingdoms of Malawi) There were pretty powerful chiefs. They had to get at least the tacit, if not active cooperation of at least a number of the powerful and knowledgeable of the region. Also many of the powerful and knowledgeable found it very profitable, especially given the greater wealth and technology of the Europeans, to either sell their enemies and/or victums or even their own people. Furthermore the Arab slave traders had been comming down to do business for centuries.

The people who do not mention these things do not do so because they are ignorant. In their ranks there would be many people who would know. They do not do so out of sympathy for the poor slaves. As if that would help the slaves. They do this because they have an agenda to erode, misrepresent, drag down and destroy our civilization. They do this by lies(called proganda), getting their people into influential positions(eg: teaching), censureship and other active discouragement of truth and by persecution of people who hold different views. They do this for two reason. One, they are the people who are less likely to make it on their own merit(notice they need affirmative action, quota systems, lobbying for oppressive laws and the corruption of stacking and appointing their own. Two, because many years ago, not being able to make it, they formulated theories that were at variance with the prevailing philosophies of the time, and thus seek to push these no matter what. In fact no matter what is what it is all about. These people came up with hairbrained theories for the reasons of envy and physical and moral weakness, deliberately did not test them, but presumed them and now defend these fanatically and tyrannically regardless of their merits. These philosophies fit very well into their own moral and physical weaknesses. Haven't you noticed that the vast majority of these people are of weak physical and moral disposition.

The reasons for this so called oversite of the facts springs from the indolgence of a physical and moral degeneration. They are enforeced and put over in a decieving manner because of their perpertrators' indulgence to themselves and basic dishonesty. They are put over and enforced by tryanny, persecution, intolerance and extreme ruthlessness. But all tyrants, including this scum, are always-ineverately found out and destroyed. As these are gradually-these days. These people are of the past-for they have no future. And the truth of history will be made known. And no tyrant, no matter how strong or how previlant, can stand against the force and truth of history. The day of the judgement of these people, the day of historical truth's vindication-the day of justice's reconning, is at hand.

Answer 8

You're right. They were captured and sold into slavery by their fellow Africans. It would have been so much better if they'd just been killed. That way we wouldn't have to have this discussion over and over and over and...

Answer 9

Mention is often made of them. However, no matter what you might have to say about them, and no matter how relevant you might think that it is, do you believe that this in any way lessens the disgusting behavior of slave owners in the new world?

Answer 10

Jesus Christ
Yes we know we once enslaved the Africans, we hear on this site every f****ng day.
Im pretty sure it was a nightmare, but it was 200 years ago (well it was for us anyway)
Get over it