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The vast majority of plums are purple. So we don't say "purple plums."

Few Muslims stand up AGAINST terrorism. So, why would we say "radical Muslim" instead of simply saying "Muslim"?

2007-03-23 01:18:05 · 15 answers · asked by junglejoe 2 in Politics & Government Politics

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I prefer the designation observant Muslim and non-observant Muslim. You are correct. The adjective "radical" and "extremist" are redundant.

In Islam, there is a difference between the believer (Muslim) and unbeliever (infidel Kufar). This comprises the two categories of the Dar ul Islam (realm of Islam) and Dar ul Harb (realm of battle).

The use of the term "moderate Muslim" as opposed to "extremist Muslim" or "radical Muslim" is used by Western media not by Muslims.

EXTREMIST/RADICAL - Those who kill shouting "Allahu akbar" are killing in the name of Allah, for the sake of Allah, according to the rules of engagement of the Qur'an. = mujahid (pl. mujahideen) can include clerics or professors who incite followers to jihad.

MODERATE MUSLIM .... the term as it is used in common parlance seems to mean a devout Muslim (one who prays, etc.) but does not kill (qitl) infidels (kuffar - non-Muslims or those who aid them). However, what the Western media may not be aware of is that in Islam, Muslims who aid and abet the "fighter" (mujahid) have nearly the same status and reward as the mujahid.

I think it would be better to classify Muslims according to "observant" or "devout" Muslims and "non-practicing" Muslims. In other words, those who follow the 5 pillars of Islam (plus compulsory jihad) or those who are not religious.

HOWEVER the important difference when dealing with terrorism and the safety and security of non-Muslims is whether a Muslim obeys the Qur'an.....which states....
Qur'an Surah Al-Anfãl (8):39
So fight them (unbelievers) until there is no more fitnah (disbelief or worship of any god but Allah) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)" ...

Qur'an [Surah al-Hujurat (49):15]
Mumim (true Muslims) believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and without doubt they strive in the cause of Allah( jihad fee Sybil Allah) with their wealth and their lives. Those! They are the sincere.

Not all Muslims blow up things, yet "jihad in the cause of Allah" "jihad fee sybil Allah" is "fard ayn" "compulsory duty" for all Muslims. Why? There are rules from the Quran for combattive jihad.

Among observant Muslims there are those who:
a) jihad in the path of Allah with their wealth and their lives (including those who sit at home but give asylum to mujahidin Qur'an 4:76, 8:74, 49:15) = true Muslim
b) those who sit at home (and do not give asylum to mujahidin or jihad in the path of Allah)
c) the handicapped (does not count as a category)

http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/var/39p_e.htm
Following are the 39 principles of Jihad as described by Mohhamad Bin Ahmad Al-Salem translated from Al-faroq website by Col Jonathan D. Halevi:

1. Preparing and urging the mind for Jihad - Every Muslim must obey the call for the Jihad against the infidels out of sheer belief and intention.

2. Sincere desire to attain martyrdom - Al-Salem, basing his arguments on Sheik Abdallah Azzam (the spiritual leader of Osama Bin Laden, killed in
Afghanistan in 1989), emphasizes the importance of the sincere endeavor in order to attain martyrdom from Allah. The believer can perform the commandment concerning the "preparation to the battle" (I'dad Al-'oda) and gain a reward from Allah equivalent to the Saheed's reward (72 virgins and secure a close place near the Divine presence in Heaven) even though he may die from natural causes.

3. Taking part in the Jihad - Every Muslim has to take an active role in holy war against the infidels, prepared to self sacrifice for the sake of Allah. Participation in Jihad is the most distinguished action in the eyes of Allah.

4. Financing Jihad - Muslims can take part in the Jihad by making donations dedicated to the Jihad and the Mujahideen. The donation's value is
determined by its quality and destination and not by the sum total which is donated.

5. Supplying the fighters' needs - A believer who is unable to take part in the Jihad (for instance women and handicapped) can perform his duty
by supplying the Mujahideens' needs in money and equipment. By doing so the donator is considered Mujahid and deserves the same reward.

6. Taking care of the Mujahid's family - A believer who supplies a Mujahid's family needs is considered Mujahid and deserves half of his
reward. If one neglects this act it may bring him misfortune and death by the hands of God.

7. Assisting the fallens' families - by supplying the special needs of the orphans and widows.

8. Assisting the families of prisoners and wounded fighters - by supplying their necessities.

9. Fund raising for the Mujahideen - money is the lifeline of the Jihad. Its importance also stems from gathering donations which would arouse
the spirit of Jihad in the believers' hearts. There are many ways of carrying out this duty: in mosques, public places, family gatherings,
charity events, monthly donation or by urging the wealthy to open their hands to the Mujahideen.

10. Granting charity donations to the Mujahideens - who enjoy priority status in Islam.

11. Financing medical treatment for wounded Mujahideen

12. Praising the Mujahideen and their deeds - It is essential to educate the Islamic Nation on their values and to see them as a role model.

13. Encouraging the Mujahideen to stick to their ways - in order to strengthen their spirit and moral.

14. Protecting the Mujahideen -avoid publishing any information that may place them in jeopardy or spoil the spirit of Jihad. Al-Salem warns his
readers from the Arabic daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat (Saudi orientated, published in London ) which conducts the "crusader - Jewish scheme" against Islam by publishing false information designed to destroy the steadfastness of the Islamic Nation and the Mujahideens' spirit.

15. Publicizing the disgrace of hypocrites and defeatists - who strive to weaken the Islamic Nation.

16. Preaching to Jihad - Enormous reward is promised to every Muslim who serves as a catalyst for other believers to commit the duty of the Jihad.

17. Providing strategic advice to the Mujahideen - This can be translated in many ways including the supply of essential information on the enemy and his plans in order to be well prepared.

18. Keeping secrecy concerning the Mujahideen

19. Prayers to Allah for the sake of the Mujahideen and for the defeat of the enemies.

20. Holding special prayer to avoid misfortune and to strengthen the Muslim community.

21. Publishing the Mujahideens' activities in order to arouse the notion of solidarity and strengthen pride and hope among the believers, to praise the
ideal of self sacrifice for the sake of Allah and to break the media siege imposed by the enemy. There are varied ways recommended for distributing information praising Jihad including Internet websites and forums, distribution lists, circulating publications in public places (for instance mosques, schools), sending SMS, etc.

22. Participating in publishing process of books on the Mujahideen

23. Publishing Islamic laws supporting the Jihad - This mission falls on the shoulders of the Muslim scholars who have the duty to guide the Islamic
Nation in the light of the Jihad and to call believers to join the Mujahideen and pray on their behalf. Their followers are demanded to urge the scholars to act. In this context, Al-Salem glorifies the role of Sheik Hamoud Al-Oqala Al-Shu'aybi (radical Saudi scholar, deceased 2 years ago,
backed the Taliban regime and al-Qaeda) as an adorable scholar who thrived to strengthen the Jihadi organizations worldwide by publishing Islamic laws justifying terror suicide attacks and holy war against the infidels.

24. Keeping steady, consistent contact with scholars and preachers in order to update them about the current happenings in connection with the Mujahideen. The believer is asked to assist Islamic scholars who on certain occasion are under government pressure or influenced by false information. He has to update them regularly with reliable information, to support them and urge them to persist with the call to Jihad.

25. Physical practicing - A Muslim who designates himself to become a Mujaheed has to start gradually by improving his physical fitness. Al-Salem elaborates in his book a recommended practicing program which includes enhancing the endurance of both the heart and lungs, increasing muscle mass and strength.

26. Acquiring shooting skills - Al-Salem calls on Muslims not to be satisfied solely with the tuition of Jihad but to prepare in performing in this duty by acquiring shooting skills.

27. Practicing swimming and riding horses - riding horses, explains Al-Salem is still relevant in the battlefields of Afghanistan , Chechnya and Iraq .

28. Learning first aid skills - to help wounded Mujahudeen (splicing broken bones, providing infusions, etc.).

29. Learning the doctrine of Jihad - Al-Salem recommends dozens of books, articles and Islamic laws published in recent years by Muslim radical leaders and scholars most of them Saudis by origin (Osama Bin Laden, Hamoud Al-Oqala Al-Shuaibi, Abd Aziz Jarbou', Yusouf Al-'ayyiri, Naser Al-Fahed, Ali Al-Khudier, Suliman Al-Olwan and more). One of them is the Al-Khudier's Islamic law which justifies the use of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S.

30. Supplying refuge and shelter to the Mujahideen

31. Expressing hostility and hatred toward infidels - A call for reconciliation or co-existence with the infidels might weaken the Mujahudeen. One may call for a Hudna, but to place it in practice is forbidden.

32. Constant action to achieve the release of all prisoners - held in enemy jails and to use all means for their escape or release.

33. Distributing current information on the prisoners in order to keep their high moral.

34. Performing electronic Jihad - Al-Salem attributes paramount importance to the Internet as a component for Jihad. He calls believers to join the Jihad by participating in Internet forums to defend the Islam and Mujahideen, to preach Jihad and to encourage Muslims to learn more about
this sacred duty. The Internet provides an opportunity to reach vast, target audiences and respond swiftly to false allegations. Computer experts are asked to use their skills and experience in destroying American, Jewish and
secular websites as well as morally corrupt web sites.

35. Alienation of infidels - Believers in other religions have to be isolated from Muslim communities so they will be prevented from committing hostile actions.

36. Educating the younger generation to adore Jihad and the Mujahideen - The children, asserts Al-Salem are the "fuel" of the next stage of confrontation with the infidels. Parents have the duty to educate them to adore Jihad and the Mujahideen and to prepare themselves mentally for self-sacrifice for the sake of Allah. Al-Salem recommends believers to tell their young stories
about the life of Prophet Mohammad, his associates, the great Muslim conquerors and the Mujahideen in our time. In addition it is recommended to display to the children Jihadi films and taped preaches which praise martyrdom.

37. Abandoning the luxuries of materialism - which might weaken the spirit of Jihad.

38. Boycotting enemy's commodities - as part of the economic Jihad.

39. Avoiding the employment of foreign workers - from enemy countries.

READ THESE REPORTS TOO
http://english.nctb.nl/publications/reports/aivd/
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2007-03-23 10:39:17 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It isn't repeating yourself, because many muslims do in fact stand up against terrorism. Many major middle eastern nations condemned the September 11th attacks. Also, keep in mind that there are many American muslims who strongly condemn the radical muslim ideas, and have been directly hurt and affected by them. A Saudi prince, Prince Al-Waleed bin talal has invested in AMerican finance and "briding the gap" between Islam and Christianity. A former Prime minister of Lebanon, Rafic Hariri, had very good relations with the US and fought ardently against the ideas of radical muslims until his death. The bottom line is that we say radical muslims because saying otherwise shows ignorance.

2007-03-23 08:26:49 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Peaceful Muslims do not stand up against terrorism primarily because they are intimidated not to by the radicals. Just look at the recent international Muslim reform conference held in Florida a couple of weeks back. Security was unbelievable because of the threat of radical Muslims to attack the peaceful ones there. What's more, many attendees had to come incognito in order to not only protect themselves but their families back home.

I would call you a stupid racist...but that would be repeating myself too.

2007-03-23 08:28:37 · answer #3 · answered by kathy_is_a_nurse 7 · 1 0

If you've ever looked at plums properly, you'll see they come in a whole range of colors: purple, red, orange, yellow, green, and many combinations of the above.

If you actually bother talking to Muslims in your town, you'll soon realise that there is much more variety than you think. In my experience, most of them don't condone terrorism.

Perhaps your ideas come from the media rather than real experience?

2007-03-23 08:23:17 · answer #4 · answered by Saint Bee 4 · 2 0

oh again and again,,,,u r sick and surely making all people sick.
I think u r wasting your time and u having a problem of how to categorize Muslims,so i advice u to do sports or reading,that would be better for u,The vast majority of Muslims in the Middle east are 580Million red eyes Muslims,those few Muslims u r talking about are the American puppets,and they will not last in Iraq or in Afghanistan,I think those u r calling a terrorists,they did not come here in America,We went there and bombed their homes,killing innocent people by the name of Democracy,so i advice u to fight against terrorism too and u should go to Iraq or Afghanistan,I will be the first one to receive your coffin here in America,Also if u want to fight terrorism go alone and take with u this stupid A.H president.
We want our American Boys back take it or leave it,and leave America for Americans.

2007-03-23 08:45:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think we should ask the peaceful Muslims what they think of this. I'll ask one, but someone else will have to find the other one.

EDIT: Tell Me, you are simply mistaken. When Eric Rudolph committed his crimes, there was a loud and prolonged outcry from Christians denouncing those acts as incompatible with Christianity. What woman are regularly attacked?

2007-03-23 08:37:10 · answer #6 · answered by Rick N 5 · 0 0

um the mosque in denver still holds a vigil every year on 9/11 to make sure they never forget what can happen when you allow your religions to be distorted and consume you. they have spoken out numerous times on tv stations begging radical muslims to re-read the koran and understand that their thinking is skewed. you should actually read the koran sometime. it is not as evil as everyone likes to think.

2007-03-23 08:42:40 · answer #7 · answered by big_john_719 3 · 0 0

It is not wise to assume that you speak for everyone, and by using the pronoun "we", that is exactly how you sound. I have many Muslim friends, and not one of them feels that terrorism is okay. Your statement is akin to me saying that all Americans are selfish and corrupt, because some of those currently in power are. I would never say this, because I know that one does not represent the whole.

2007-03-23 08:27:33 · answer #8 · answered by Political Enigma 6 · 0 1

Because it increase hostilities and hostilities starts a cycle of hatred...which ultimately leads to actions against our troops on the ground. We need to lower hostilities so the Iraqis can pull their collective heads together...& get their sh*t together to form this new nation so our boys can ultimately come home with a real sense of "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED". Lets stay focused on getting our boys home for the right reason and not argue over semantics.

2007-03-23 08:24:41 · answer #9 · answered by Laughing Man Copycat 5 · 0 0

Few Christians stand up against those who attack women going into and coming out of abortion clinics.

Should we assume all Christians are radicals?

2007-03-23 08:35:12 · answer #10 · answered by Bush Invented the Google 6 · 0 0

No, all Muslims are not radical. Many are decent, peace loving people.

2007-03-23 08:25:25 · answer #11 · answered by vegaswoman 6 · 0 0

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