what would it take for their to be a peace treaty between Israel and Lebanon?

Question

Maybe this is the wrong place to ask, but I want to know the opinion of those who live in Lebanon.

I know this is an emotionaly charged issue after the war this past summer, which should have never happend, but please hear me out.

Currently Israel as a peace treaty with two bordering nations. Namely Egypt and Jordan while relations could be better their is no violence on either side. Israel still dose not have peace with Syria due to issue of the Golan Hights.

As far as I am aware Israel dose not occupy any land claimed by Lebanon and Lebanon dose not occupy any land claimed by Israel.

My only thinking is that fear of Syria has caused their not to be peace between Lebanon and Syria, but I might be wrong.

So please tell me what do you think is needed for there to be peace between the nations of Israel and Lebanon?

Answer 1

There is land whichs is for Lebanon and taken, it is the Chebaa Farms, so as soon as you give us our land back the peace treaty could NOT be signed but it will be overviewed and a peace make take place if all the parties in Lebanon accept.

Another thing is after the last summer war 2006 the Lebanese had more hate for them due because they were destroying our money.

God Bless Lebanon and R.I.P. for the children who died in the summer war.

Answer 2

Simply put, the Lebanese government needs to be able to control its population -- nothing more, nothing less. This is a scarred country, still reeling from sectarian violence and the devastating civil war. Government officials currently represent only their own ethnic factions -- or worse still, Syrian interests! Only if the Lebanese converge on the issue of national identity -- and eventually, their relations with Israel -- can this issue ever be resolved.

Israel's withdrawal in May 2000 was accepted by the UN as a complete return of Lebanese sovereignty over Lebanon's territory. Hizbullah illegitimately uses the issue of the Shab'aa Farms (which is Syrian land, in any case) as a pretext to continue fighting Israel (and up its own prestige in the eyes of the common public). Israel DOES NOT seek to expand into Lebanon, and has effectively relinquished its hold on all territory belonging to that country. Guess whose court the ball is in now...

Answer 3

Lebanon needs to sign a comprehensive peace treaty with the state of Israel. Lebanon has no interest in the hostilities with Israel, on the contrary, the relationship between the two was based on friendship and cooperation.

A peace treaty would be great for both sides, but it is unacceptable to sign a peace treaty when the following issues are not resolved.

1. The terrorist organization Hezbollah needs to disarm (by a western force if necessary).
2. The Syrians needs to stop playing around and controlling Lebanese politicians.
3. Lebanon needs to consider bordering Israel as a peaceful friend instead of an enemy and to understand that Israel is not a treat for the Lebanese government.
4. Lebanon needs to clearly redefine its border with Syria.
5. Lebanon needs to negotiate with Israel the faith of the unfaithful Palestinian in Lebanon.
6. Shebaa Farms should be returned to Lebanon.
7. The Lebanese army should fully control the 10 452 Km2 Lebanese territory.
8. Lebanon needs to recognize the state of Israel.
9. Lebanon needs to consider that a peace treaty with Israel will boost Lebanese tourism, boost Lebanese economy and will boost western investors.

Most Lebanese consider that Hezbollah is defending the Lebanese territory which is totally wrong.
The war is because Hezbollah is occupying South Lebanon and attacking Israel againts the Lebanese government and Lebanese citizens greed.

Once ALL my 9 points are executed a peace treaty between Lebanon and brothering Israel is obvious.

Answer 4

I agree with Smutty to a point. You have to know that Syria has at times supported Lebanon's claim that the Shebaa Farms are part of Lebanon and not Syrian territory at the UN and in official government press releases. But at times it has made contrary statements.
In August 1972, Syrian president Hafez al-Assad said, "Syria and Lebanon are a single country.
On May 16, 2000, the Syrian Foreign Minister, Farouq al-Shara, indicated to Annan in a telephone conversation that Syria supported Lebanon's claim.[28] This was made public in the UN Press Release SC/6878 of 18 June 2000 which stated "Concerning the Shab'a farmlands, both Lebanon and Syria state that this land belongs to Lebanon.
But for a Terrorist group like Hezbola to take a small, poor country like Lebanon into an all out war, without utilising political options, it is like jumping out of an airplane at 20,000 feet without a parachute.
And i believe Syria+Hezbo are a bigger threat and a bigger Enemy than Israel, to the Lebanese. Now ask the brainwashed like Pinky and her sister what they think. :-)) LOL

Answer 5

I am Lebanese and I think that we are not Arabs more than counries like Egypt, Jordan, Qatar or even Palestine. So what prevents us from having peace with Israel?
Actually I do not know. If every Arab country is fighting Israel, then I would not even consider a treaty, but you see Lebanon can not be alone in the warfiels while other countries like Syria who has its Golan heights occupied are running to have a treaty with Israel.
I think you are right our territories are "free", so I hink that we should percieve the future in a wiser eye and prevent what happened in the last summer just as Egypt, Jordan... did before us.

Answer 6

Unfortunately although a peace treaty is ultimately the best solution, Lebanon cannot afford this option.

Unfortunately, Lebanon has to be the last Arab Country to sign such a treaty with Israel. Why is that? Because neighbouring countries like Syria will simply not allow it until Syrians themselves sort out their issues with Israel. If Lebanon goes for such a treaty without Syria, Syrians will trigger another civil war in Lebanon.

In reality, Syrians are willing to give Golan heights to Israel permanently and in return they prefer to gain control over Lebanon again. Yes, this is their ultimate goal. Lebanon can serve Syria's economic situation very well, much better than getting back their occupied territories. Yes, Syrians are holding Lebanon hostage.

The Chebaa farms issue is a joke.

Hence to answer your question "what is needed for such a treaty to occur", my answer would be: Sort out the issues between Syrians & Israelis and Lebanon will relieved.

Answer 7

In order for their to be peace between Lebanon and Israel, HIzbollah, the Lebanese government, and Israel would have to come to some sort of agreement about how to disarm Hizbollah while maintaining safety for the Lebanese citizens, how to settle the land dispute, and how to get all of the Palestinian refugees out of Lebanon. Also, all of Lebanon's neighbors would have to agree not to attack Lebanon for their peace initiative. I think that the Lebanese government would be willing to try and establish peace, but with all of the prerequisites, it's a long way off.

Answer 8

Ouch!! talk about hitting a tender spot...

FYI: "As far as I am aware Israel dose not occupy any land claimed by Lebanon"
This is not true, as you were told above, Israel did not withdraw from the whole of lebanon, it is still occupying land in the south called the shebaa farms.

and to respond to itay's " so what if....." : Itay, I sometimes read your responses with a lot of respect but this one shows extreme narrow mindness bordering on the childish.

A country who practically destroyed another country under the pretext that we kidnapped 2 of theirs cannot turn around and tell us, "let me keep these, so what if..." and why should we?

I refuse to believe that if you had family there you would sacrifice them. it doesn't work this way... there are actual human beings on this land who are as lebanese as the rest of us and who are living under the mercy of a ruthless occupier.

Now back to the issue, unfortunately when you say why doesn't lebanon: for the moment being, there is no entity called Lebanon, we are a country divided, exploited, coveted, transformed into a pawn to settle the differences of the super powers and unable to agree on simple internal issues.

I think that what Smutty said is true, but it's just a fraction of the whole equation.

The above, in addition to the fact that the memory of the recent invasion is still too vivid in our memories, makes it impossible to put such an issue on the table for the moment.

@moneymaker: I don't know when you posted your edit, so sorry if this is a delayed response ( I am not ignoring you, neither did I last time if you care to go back and check, I just spend a limited time online and rarely go back to previous postings)

Moneymaker, I have never applauded, justified or agreed with what Hizbollah did (or do for that matter) I simply refuse to believe that this was the incident that triggered Israel's angst.

The scenario was bigger than you or me - I actually think that you were victimized as well but to a lesser degree - and the reason all this went so wrong is because the masterplanner is an incompetent moron with enormous power and influence.

"But it looks to me like one country cannot do things like that to another country and expect to get away with it, and Hezbollah has its representatives in the Lebanese Government."
1- I won't waste my time on your first statement, it is too one sided, You sound like a rather moderate well balanced person, so I'm sure I can get you to agree that the "other country" has done the unthinkable to "this country" and not just last summer, and has been getting away with it for years.

2- Representatives in the government or not, you do know that hizbollah are not "the country" right? because if you don't understand our current set up, I have given you too much credit and this is the end of this debate.

As far as I am concerned, A "group" over which we have no power did and israel went after "the country".


"Oh, and webby, I refuse to believe that if one of the killed soldiers was your brother, or father, or son, that you would have the same opinion you do now. "

This is where you confuse me, what is my opinion now? please reply to this if nothing else. I give you permission to search my previous postings and prove to me that at any time I agreed with Hezbollah's doings.

The bottom line is that Israel thinks that everything can be solved with violence ( I have my little theory as to why you people are like that) and Gam Zo outlined it so very eloquently.
Us Lebanese speak a different language, and when the time is right, we hope you'll be ready to negotiate peace in a totally different manner.

Answer 9

Only a clear victory on the battlefield by Israel will convince Arab countries like Lebanon that Israel is here to stay.

After such a victory, when Lebanon sues for peace, there can be a true and lasting peace negotiated between the victor and the loser.

Otherwise, the Arab states will continue to think that they can relaize their aim of eliminating Israel--wiping Israel off the map, as Ahmadinejad has said.

Answer 10

The land of Canaan should be split in half. The northern half would be Palestine and the southern half Israel.

Both side would be disarmed, by force if necessary.

In the middle occupying Jerusalem would be the new U.N. HQ with a corridor that divides these lands from the Mediterranean to the Red Sea.

Stationed there should be 300,000 man multi-national Rapid Reaction Force capable of delivering a serious smack down to ANYONE in the region that acts out of line.

This solution creates peace in the region and gets the U.N. out of New York .