When will women accept equality?

Question

Why is it only men can be drafted and die for their countries?When will we have reperations for all the men who did so?Now that women make the same money as men,why can't they pay for: all the dating,wedding rings,marriage,honeymoon then lose their house and kids and pay alimony?Research now shows the most important parent after 4 is the father,so why are our laws so sexist?Is that why ever since feminism came along drug abuse,rape ,suicide,violent crime by women against men etc. has increased?Our society is now falling apart at the seems.Women throughout time have stolen a lot of money from men under false pretenses.Why dont the feminists who are so strong and independent,demand women no longer take money from men,but rather pay it back and make reperations?Why don't women want to buy a man an expensive ring when they marry?It is simple,feminism is propaganda designed to destroy(trojan horse) our society.It has nothing to do with equal rights,but about creating a double standard.

Answer 1

I agree with you on many levels:
*women typically are the cheapest creatures on earth
*American TV is mostly for women, very little shows for men
*If little boys show an ounce of masculinity, we shove pills down theri throat and say they have ADD
*paternity fraud is legal against men.

..i could go on and on...but why?

Answer 2

Feminism is SOOOOO much more than just a fight for equality. It's actually really fascinating and gives great insights into all the subtle ways our constructed gender roles play out. Learn a little bit about it, and any time you open a newspaper, turn on the TV, or even step outside your house, you will notice things in human behaviour you've always taken for granted.

With that said, I'm willing to bet a lot of money that you know absolutely nothing about feminism, so I don't know why you're claiming expertise.

Re: draft. Ever heard of the Equal Rights Amendment, that feminists in the U.S. have been trying to pass for years, but hae encountered such extreme opposition that it's never happened? That amendment would actually require that women be drafted. The whole draft issue is kind of a moot point anyway, as there ISN'T A DRAFT, and with any luck and a good government, never will be.

Re: making money. I, and most feminists, would LOVE to pay for my share on a date. Unfortunately, it's men who get insulted when we try to - and yes, this has happened before to me personally. You're also forgetting that a majority of women do NOT consider themselves feminists, or do not know why paying their share is so important.

Losing house and kids: I'd love to see some evidence that all divorced men experience this. Most custody settlements are settled OUTSIDE of court. As for the ones that are settled in court, don't you trust the legal system enough to determine that they make the best choice in each individual circumstance? And since you're throwing out generalizations, I will as well: I knew plenty of people growing up with divorced parents who lived with their dads.

Abuse: Decreased since the feminist movement

Rape: Also decreased. Also, it is now illegal.

Suicide: I don't know the statistic on this, but I highly doubt you can blame suicide on feminism. Please write a thesis on this subject and then maybe I'd consider.

Violent crime by women against men: Stats, please

Stolen money/make reparations: This is so ridiculous I'm not even going to address it

Buying expensive rings: women DO by men wedding rings when they marry. I won't get into wedding rings as a symbol and why they're problematic, but let me just say, feminism as a theory isn't a big fan of wedding rings anyway.

Feminism is propaganda: No, I think you're been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh. Get a clue and stop making assertions on things you know nothing about.

EDIT: Oops sorry, I put "abuse" instead of "drug abuse." While I don't know what the exact stats are, I *do* know that drugs were widespread before the feminist movement, (60s/70s) and were actually legal until immigration of visible minorities - then all the white people got their panties in a bunch and criminalized drugs because the visible minorities were doing them as well. So I guess "drug abuse" depends on the perspective.

Besides, you have NO PROOF to back your claims up anyway.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

You make some very good statements, albeit strongly worded.

However, I think woman "dying for their country" will always be seen as taboo, because they give life (with combined DNA from a male...) and we are supposed to protect them.

Men and Woman are different, but they should have equal rights. In modern society it seems to be men that are hard done by (who says I can't have cheaper car insurance just because I am male?)

Political correctness and feminism is a dinosaur from the 50/60s when they actually had a just reason for it, but now that objective has been achieved it should be put to bed.

For example, apparently it is not Politically correct to call a woman a "lady" anymore because they have to live with a "lord" to have this titles, thus it is degrading. Its perfectly acceptable to just shout "Oi, you! Woman!" though....crazy!

Also, holding a door open for a woman is seen by some as being patronising and degrading.....WTF??? So manners are non-PC?

Most woman I know (yes, real woman) have the opinion of feminists that they are either lesbians or "need to get laid". lol!

If there was a similar male movement, I wouldn't want some trumped up little fanatic on a soap box speaking out on my behalf anyway...

Answer 5

Feminists ARE lobbying to have women eligible for the draft.
Reparations? For the widows of the dead men I suppose? Write your congressman.
I paid for my husband's wedding ring...it WAS expensive! I wear my grandmother's wedding ring. I paid for the wedding AND the honeymoon by myself, with MY OWN MONEY, and I always offered to pay half when dating.
My friends who are married SHARED the financial obligations of the wedding (read: they are BOTH making the payments on those credit cards). Traditionally, it is the parents of the BRIDE that are supposed to pay for the wedding, anyway...so what is your point?
And please provide that "research" that says the father is more important...BOTH parents are important. (I'm getting my masters in Child Psychology, and I have never seen this "research" you speak of.)
As for "alimony"...it is rare that a woman is granted that these days. And men have received "palimony" as well. Child support is more common, but what kind of jerk would complain about supporting his kid?
And "pay men back" WHAT money? What money have women "stolen"? You are ranting. Please try to make your post a little more clear, and steer clear of hysterical rants. Then we can better address your queries.

Answer 6

I would love to be drafted for my country, but they would put me in the back and I want to be on the front lines. But oh, look at that. The guys don't want me there, they want to protect me. And I don't know about you but I am not making the same amount of money as a man. Alot of it, as in paying for things and such, guys still feel like then need to or have to and they get offended when we offer to pay for anything. I tried to pay for us on a date and he got pissed. So it's not entirely my fault that I don't do things because alot of men would prefer that I didn't. Don't blame me for not doing things when people won't allow me to.

Answer 7

never because it is in a womans nature to never be satisfied, if you have ver been in any kind of a heterosexual relationship you would of already known the answer and not needed to ask.

Answer 8

we need to respect each other, but women and men are not the same and women go to war too ok. that is the beauty of live the defferents between men and women

Answer 9

Why should women take a step down to our level.

They rule the world, alsways have, and it is obvious that your personal failure with them is of your own doing.

Plus, let me add, you have no facts to support any of your assertions re: societal decline.

Answer 10

Be real with yourself: If a woman paid for your stuff you'd say she was taking away your masculinity.

Men who give money to their wives have the women that you typically would want- the stay at home moms. I'd love to be one, but unfortunately this game of life won't let me.

Women aren't taking money from men. Come on, that's insane. WOmen are working for it too. If you mean the money grubbing ones, well, those ones are usually in relationships with men who want their bodies, so both parties are at fault here.

My brother and his wife helped eachother with their wedding rings. And a wedding ring is a gift. You buy it not out of "so what are you going to give me". That's selfish. You buy it because you love the person. Depends on if you choose a materialistic girl or not regarding the price, but hey, that's your choice.

Answer 11

Seems that too many women only want equality if it benefits them.

And feminism has wreaked lots of havoc on society. Sometimes I think I was born 50 years too late!