Why don't conservatives realize that if they don't pay for better schools they will pay for bigger prisons?

Question

Lack of opportuntiy, leads to desperation, desperation leads to crime. Duh!

Dave what planet do you live on?

I never said most illiterate peopl commit crimes. Most poor people are good decent people, but most desperate criminals are poor.

Answer 1

I am a special education teacher. And the reason that people don't want to pay for better schools is because we still need the "uneducated" citizen who will just "shut his mouth and do his job" like the good little clone he is. Bush has made education a joke with "No Child Left Behind." Its not about making sure you do you BEST to help these kids understand and get it. Its about not keeping kids back anymore just because they don't. A child can no longer be kept back a grade unless the parent asks us to. It can't even really be suggested. We have so many kids with "Swiss Cheese Education" that they can't even catch up. And yet, we pass these kids on because we can't keep them back!!! There are not enough properly trained teachers for our children. There are not enough funds to encourage more teachers. We no longer care how a child learns best because it doesn't matter if we did. There are not enough funds to meet the needs of our children, and yet no one seems to care. They point the finger at the TEACHERS for not providing a proper education but at the same time, they don't want to put money towards education to make sure the teachers can do their jobs THE RIGHT WAY. If your not going to put the money where it needs to go, shut up and quit complaining about it. Take up where the teachers can't. Don't leave educating your children solely to the responsibility of the teachers. Invest in your kids, find out what they need help with and HELP THEM. Every school offers some type of parent resource coordinator. Your child's teacher will GLADLY tell you where your child needs help. Don't blame the teachers for something you won't do yourselves. If an education for our children is that important to you, show it in every way you can. "**** or get off the pot". You can't complain about something while at the same time not doing your part to change it. Don't want your hard earned money going to help pay for better schools, fine; but don't complain about the quality of education if your not willing to do your part. Teachers need your support, however they can get it.

Answer 2

From the way you posed your question I will safely assume that you are a so called liberal.
The tax payers of this country are spending more money per child now than we ever have. You really want to improve public schools? Throw away completely the system as it is now. Do away with administrators getting executive salaries and paid trips to Jamaica. Do away with teachers that do not teach and just collect a check and have a worthless union protect them. Pay should be based on performance. A teacher must be qualified in the field that they teach. As in an English major teaches English and a Science major teaches science. It isn't this way now. It seems that under the current system that the more money we throw at public schools, the worse it gets. We need to get back to teaching from grade 1 through grade 12 math, English, science, true American History, the Constitution, some sort of P.E. ( mandatory) and computer literacy as well. As far as the crap with cultural diversity which the far left has given us to replace other important classes, that can be put on after school curriculum if you want it. This is why we as a nation have dropped in the world ranking in educating our children.

As far as your comments on poverty and crime, I have seen rich people commit crimes while some of the poorest are some of the most honest and decent people I know.
My lack of opportunity made me kick open doors of opportunity. I tried all the harder to achieve to do better. I didn't go sell drugs, steal, or commit crimes to make a living no matter how hungry I got.

And to Brian M and his far left diatribe, the public school system has already turned into a Wal Mart education thanks to the Dem. far left nut job wackos that believe a Socialist/Communist govt. is good. This is the school system your ideology has gotten us. The Dem. party has run our school system for a long time and ever since it has gotten control it has been slowly but surely ruined it and put it in a state of decay. The Dem party fights against making the school system being made better at every turn. The real facts speak for themselves. You can quote something from you tube all day long, but that doesn't make it fact. It is a matter of Congressional record of what the Dem. Party has done in voting down anything that would truly improve our educational system, just as they voted down fixing the Social Security system. The Dem. Party is an enemy to this nation and the Rep. Party as of the last 6 years aren't much better by allowing them to get away with it. Just because the far left repeat a number of lies a hundred times, doesn't make it true. Wake up to reality. The one thing I will say though is that total privatizing is a mistake. It needs to be overhauled from the ground up, not privatized. To be run like the private schools I have seen would be good though. Teach a child to learn and teach them what is needed to go out in the real world to succeed.

Answer 3

Actually your question should be, why don't liberals realize ......

If you look at the Federal Education Budget since the Departmant of Education was formed, you will see that Republican Congress's have funded Education far more than Democrat Congress's have.

Annual funding increases average just 3.3% with Democrat Congress's.

Annual funding increases average 14.9% under Republican Congress's.

The Education budget has increased from 42 billion in 2001 to over 88 billion in 2007, a 111% increase in just 6 years.

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The last Democrat Congress was the first and only Congress to actually CUT the education budget, they cut education funding 16%.

Below is a link from the Department of Education that list thier budget by year.

Answer 4

Now what do you mean by better schools. I'm a moderate, but I understand that a school could be a brand new shiney building and if the children aren't being taught, and yes disciplined, they may as well be in a shack.

I believe we need to stop experimenting with our children's education and get back to the basics. Everyone isn't going to be a college graduate. So bring back vocational education. Many things need to be done, but unfortunately too many people are profiting from the ways things are done now.

Why aren't high school kids taught practical things, like balancing a check book or reading a credit report? Why are they being given numerous text books for the same subject during the same school year?

I believe that money can be a solution sometimes, but I don't believe it is the solution all of the time. I believe in common sense solutions to problems. And I believe that when something as important to this country as public education, is failing, we damned well better fix it.

Answer 5

You truly need a much broader outlook on things. I mean, really. There are such things as Christian schools and Private Schools that many Americans would now rather support. Why? So they can have more of a say-so in what their children are going to learn. Those who pay for their education from K-12 do not want their children learning about what the activist say they should be taught. Heck, it's only right, and the willingness to pay for that private education is looking better for many than before. Same with Christian schools. If they want prayer...then they won't have an activist parent telling them they cannot.

Answer 6

Better Schools? DO you think that the Teachers union in this country really care about the condition of the public schools in America? No sir. My sister is a teacher in a public school in Newark, New Jersey. She works hard to bring up the scores of the students in her class. A few years ago, her students scores went up on the standarized tests. Her principle told her that "it better not happened again!" You see if the scores go up in the school, they will get the funding cut.
She teaches 1st grade and has been threated by the students in her class. She has been kicked, had things stolen from her desk and even had one of the boys in her class threaten to "kill her" because he said that she is too strick. Most of the problem in the public schools especially in the inner cities, is the fact that the parents aren't involved. There are families that have 4, 5, and 6 children all fathered by different men. The family in the USA has broken down. There are so many kids on the drug ritalin. They are being handed out in school like candy. Again the more children that a school has on Ritalin, the more money that school system gets from the government. What are we doing to our children?God help us please!

Answer 7

I really wish this was true.

and if you ask teachers representatives or teaching unions about this, you will be told the same thing.

Unfortunately it is WRONG. Right now, america spends an average of $10,000 per child per year for education. So in a typical class of 25, that classroom has $250,000 per year spent on them (on average).

The problem is not that you aren't spending enough money on the students. The problems are that there is no choice in where to send kids to school. Where you live determines which public schools you can go to. So if you have a horrible public school, sucks to be you.

by horrible I mean poor teachers, overcrowded classes, and just general ineptness. We need the ability to have a free market mentality. If I don't like this school, I should be able to send my kids to other schools.

If enough parents did this or had the opportunity, schools would have to compete to say in business. By having competition, you get better teachers, and better students.

20/20 did a great report on this issue called Stupid in America. At this URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfRUMmTs0ZA

Answer 8

The best educated Americans ever were the baby boomers, and they certainly turned out to be well-behaved and responsible members of society, right?

I'm all in favor of education, but business doesn't care much about an educated workforce anymore. They don't want it done well or right, they want it done quickly by wage slaves. Design a fabrication process right, and you can get a monkey to do it. Outsource it to India or Honduras and make a killing.

Answer 9

We do. When I went to school in the LAUSD, the main reason why Los Angeles has such horrible education system is that it had liberal ideals. Give everyone an equal education. Well the stupid and the recently immigrated drag the rest of the class down. Rather than abandoning those who can't keep up, the schools cheat those who can.

Answer 10

The problem is that Democrats want to spend more money, but lower the expectations of the students. Making it easier to
graduate does not mean you will find decent employment. School standards have dropped, school discipline is all but gone, education is now becoming politically correct and functionally incorrect. God some schools have even tried to teach relativism, no wrong answer. Try that one at work.