If it wasn't for Milosevic would Kosovo still be part of Serbia?

Answer 1

After the end of WW2, after having split Serbia into Republic with two Provinces, Tito had streamed Kosovo into becoming a separated country. Through the WW2 war, Tito obtained the trust of Serbs, which he then abused with his "mild dictator" leadership by dealing with the Serb political elite... In 1974, Kosovo obtained such autonomy which obstructed Serbia as Republic in the Federative Yugoslavia. Kosovo's independence was on the way.

When Milosevic came to power, he revoked the 1974 autonomy. Riots and tensions began escalating in Kosovo.
Around 1989, Albanians started investing into lobbies in USA for the goal of Kosovo's independence.

Milosevic's policy in Kosovo was repressive, but it was along with the organized and growing hostility of Albanians toward Serbs. The Albanian anti Serb propaganda was growing in popularity among the Albanian Kosovar masses though agitation coming through the Albanian-Serb border as well. The Albanians were boycotting Serb institutions, creating their own parallel ones, etc. This hostility started before Milosevic... Milosevic used this climate to get on power and was because of this that he became popular among Serb masses.

The leader of Albanians in Kosovo was Rugova. He was a compromise type leader; Ghandistic. There were other political fractions in Kosovo. Later on, Rugova would not be able to satisfy the climate in Kosovo's inner political scene.

Milosevic was a repressive dictator. The critical question you are asking is if he had been more democratic oriented in certain political opportunities, what would have happened. The autonomy of 1974 had to be put down... and what would have the Albanians done if they would have been integrated into a much more mature democratic society, viewing from their own goals?

What would have happened if we could correct one by one of the political, catastrophic mistakes Milosevic had done during the entire intercourse of the disintegration of Yugoslavia, and contemplate the outcome of each?

Could we weigh the role of Milosevic with the Albanian independence thrust, along with the heavily involved outer factors?

In 1996, after Dayton, Milosevic was proclaimed "peacemaker of the Balkans." The Albanians realized that their independence movement had come to a dead end in that moment. They started open hostility toward the Serbs, by killing and destroying. This was called "terrorism" in USA, in a certain political time. But, corrupted international presence was aimed toward the Albanian goal, giving a planned escalation to the horrible political scenery of Kosovo, which would prepare ground for NATO troops. After the Yugoslav army had to intervene, by the time some 5,000 heavily armed Albanian terrorists were present, NATO attacked Serbia... in a coordinated attack with the Albanian terrorists.

The 1244 Act, which was signed with the regional capitulation of Serbia, guarantees Serbia's sovereignty over Kosovo. Legally, Kosovo is Serbia. Demographically, it is not (Though we could argue about demographic manipulation and its outcomes, but that would not fit into this question...). Politically, it is a new chapter in New World Order. Everybody is awaiting the USA sword to chop down the Gordie's knot, USA themselves had created.

To answer your question directly, if some other leader had been instead of Milosevic, he (she:) would have had opportunities to have played the cards much wiser... and if it hadn't been for NATO conquering Kosovo, the Albanians would have never gotten to the point they are today.

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Vega, I'm not speaking in terms of judgment toward the Serbs who sold their land to Albanians in Kosovo. We know that at a time they had a great price. I'm just depicting what was going on. Selling the land to go to a better place to live is just an indicative piece in the whole picture.

Of course you want independence and you have always wanted it. I applaud that. After all, a great number of Albanians in Kosovo never had the Yugoslav passport (because it was such a comfortable and Albanian- friendly place to live in, better than Albania...). But, away from this sarcasm of mine, your strive for independence is legal for you, but confronted to my country. We find it legal to preserve our sovereignty guaranteed by international laws and conventions, in this historical moment. Too bad this means what it means, but that is the way it works in any part of the world.

Sadly, it is not about your independence or our sovereignty. It is about American interests and of those who oppose them or keep silent. It is about the way of the Americans: corruption, blackmail, manipulation, lies, death, destruction, murder, rape, and just about anything that can fit into "The ends justify all means" and their "Supply and Demand" mental culture. As I said, if you justify the independence you are streaming toward now, with the price you have payed in depleted uranium, thousands of people killed and much of Kosovo destroyed instead of what would have happened if both of our nations had gotten to European Union already if it hadn't been the NATO way, then I really do not understand you, and I wish I could.

Today, legitimacy is nothing but opposing the "American Way"... The Americans thing that they are above the international ways of dealing conflicts and maintaining peace and... I'll stop here. I doubt anybody is reading this anyway :D

By the way, pay attention what will happen in the Security Council. The Americans have been a big laugh trying to lie one by one country about the veto issue... Bad Americans, bad :P

You don't find girls like Stanislava appealing to the ambience?!

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Your armed peoples had anti-vehicle weapons. The police couldn’t handle you. You were killing policemen. At one point, the army came in. Then NATO. You shouldn’t expect any army to enter such a conflict as if it were some gentleman’s sport competition, but what NATO did was a little too much for the Albanian people. As far as Albania goes, there were Albanians and weapons coming through the border. The border was almost impossible to keep due to the topography.

“and that is exactly what took place in Bosnia. NATO simply wanted to avoid another Bosnia. NATO attacked Serbia just so it can taste a bit of it's own medicine”

On what basis you compare Bosnia with Kosovo? I think that the NATO medicine was rather tasted by the Albanian people, and not by the Yugoslav army. As far as I have read, cancer increased in Kosovo 200% with further growth.

Isn’t she 15?! Come on, let Stanislava be happy any way she wants. She can only bring here a pleasant atmosphere. Don’t talk to her about graves, destruction and such bad things. Let her imagine that Kosovo is full of muscular soccer players

Answer 2

AEIOU_I some of what you wrote was true until a certain point. I see things a little different. Kosova was always a hotbed for independent minded Albanians that never wanted to live under the Serbian yoke. You blame Tito for making divisions in your Serbian borders but us Albanians have always regarded the Serbs as occupiers. I think that no matter who came to power or who was in power in Serbia the will of the freedom loving Albanian people could not have been broken. There is an Albanian saying "NDASHT ME HATER, NDASHT ME ZOR! and it means "WILLINGLY or FORCIBLY' the Albanians were going to get to independence one way or another. Albanians are a hard group to assimilate. The only time this worked was with the Arvanitis of Greece and they did it by accepting them as their brothers while Serbs wanted to use different tactics and failed. I do not think Serbs ever had a chance to keep Kosova.

I also have seen your other posts and just wanted to tell you that if you are looking for sympathy about Serbs that sold their lands to Albanians you have none from me. Why should I feel sorry about people that were paid for their lands?

Stanislava go on a play with your dolls because is this grown up talk. Move along now honey and go play with kids your age.

AEIOU_I it is great that you understand our position as we truly understand yours but realize one thing your country controlled the tanks, and all sorts of military props that it kept from all the other breakaway republics and add all the fact that it had and has a large army well trained may I add, versus a group of a rag-tag rebel army as the KLA was equipped with light weapons. It was a mismatch no doubt but realize that a good sport knows when to avoid a mismatch. Forget about Albania this was a Kosovar problem our help from Albania was minimal. When you have a showdown as this you basically have a slaughter(ibrahim Rrugova was a patriot in that aspect because he knew how much Albanians would be lost) in your hands and that is exactly what took place in Bosnia. NATO simply wanted to avoid another Bosnia. NATO attacked Serbia just so it can taste a bit of it's own medicine. That also was a mismatch without a doubt and I know it did not feel good to be on the receiving end of the punishment. On one hand I'm grateful for it that it brought your Serbs back to earth and revoked Milosevic's licence to kill and the other I'm regretfull for the loss of human life and that is never good, not because they were Serbs but because they were human beings.

About Stanislava she is what 14 or something? And a big soccer fan and she thinks this is another soccer game and she is favoring Serbia to win. She fails to realize that this a matter of life and death and many people will die if this thing is not solved peacefully, she thinks that after 90 minutes the two sides with shake hands and exchange jerseys and some will hug each other and make small conversation and move on. No my darling, if this is not resolved right, there will be a lot of grave sites and mothers in black mourning their children, and burned properties, and a bunch cripples with limbs missing. I wish we could solve the problem as easy as in a 90 minute sporting contest and have those pleasant exchanges afterwards but who are kidding. Besides what do hell does she know about Kosovo anyway she is only 14?

Answer 3

Milosevic will join that " Elite " Order of Civil Terrorists like Mr. Amin, Mr. Hitler, Mr. Chavez, Mr. Castro, Mr. Stalin........shall I continue? What-ever is happening there now has to be better than all the " Ethnic Cleansing " Mr. Milosevic introduced. America has saved so many Counties from individuals like Mr. M., and yet they continue to talk bad about us. God will continue to Bless America !!

Answer 4

Kosovo IS Serbia!!!!

Answer 5

KOSМЕТ IS SERBIA!!!A sto je tesko reci Kosmet,bas me zanima?!?!Bolje ne postavljaj pitanja o kojima nemas pojma.Kosmet je u Srbiji,pogledaj kartu,ako znas sta je to!!

Answer 6

Yes - lets all go back to the old days

Answer 7

it could happen sooner or later, no one will ever tolerate ethnic cleansing...milosovic is jus the tipping point to finally breakaway.