Why are RE teachers bnot forced to cover things like stoning and inquisitions and honour killings?

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Why are RE teachers bnot forced to cover things like stoning and inquisitions and honour killings?


Ie not allowed to simply give a roasey tinted education that lies about the nature and history of these relgions ...

but one that goes into grpahic deatial about whats done in the name or morality, today and in the past.


So kids get an accurate picture not just santa claus

ie cover things like wicca and witch burning.

the magdelen laundries

30,000 were involved up till 1996...how old were you at that time?
How many of your friends, you or your sister could have ended up here.

Abusing, raping, and ripping the babies from the arms of 30,000 girls up to just 10 years ago

http://www.thewildgeese.com/pages/magdalen.html

http://www.netreach.net/~steed/magdalen.html

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0380703/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/drama/sinners/interviews/annemarie.shtml
Origonal documentry available from

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Discuss things like was it fair for someone to be expelled simply as posed in Playboy in Poland.


Or things like gay rights discussions?

or terrorisim like the IRA.


As well as the nice stuff.

nice one on the crusades... yeah that too plus things like astecs and human sacrifics

Answer 1

Age appropriateness.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states:

Let them realize that some are in Christ as newborn babes, others as adolescents, and still others as adults in full command of their powers. . . .Those who are called to the ministry of preaching must suit their words to the maturity and understanding of their hearers, as they hand on the teaching of the mysteries of faith and the rules of moral conduct.

http://www.nccbuscc.org/catechism/text/prologue.htm

Most of the subjects you mention would be rated "R" if they were movies are not appropriate for grade school children.

Some of them are discussed in high school.

Everything should be and is discussed in adult religious education.

+ The Crusades +

Muslim armies had conquered much of northern Africa, Egypt, Palestine, Syria, and Spain, which had been some of the most heavily Christian areas in the world.

Thousands, and possibly millions, of Christians died during this drive to eventually bring the entire world under Islam.

The First Crusade was launched in 1095 by Pope Urban II to check the advance of the Muslims and regain control of the city of Jerusalem and the Holy Land.

I am sure that some atrocities were committed by both sides during this war but by most people's judgment this was a just war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade

+ The Inquisition +

Modern historians have long known that the popular view of the Inquisition is a myth. The Inquisition was actually an attempt by the Catholic Church to stop unjust executions.

Heresy was a capital offense against the state. Rulers of the state, whose authority was believed to come from God, had no patience for heretics. Neither did common people, who saw heretics as dangerous outsiders who would bring down divine wrath.

When someone was accused of heresy in the early Middle Ages, they were brought to the local lord for judgment, just as if they had stolen a pig. It was not to discern whether the accused was really a heretic. The lord needed some basic theological training, very few did. The sad result is that uncounted thousands across Europe were executed by secular authorities without fair trials or a competent judge of the crime.

The Catholic Church's response to this problem was the Inquisition, an attempt to provide fair trials for accused heretics using laws of evidence and presided over by knowledgeable judges.

From the perspective of secular authorities, heretics were traitors to God and the king and therefore deserved death. From the perspective of the Church, however, heretics were lost sheep who had strayed from the flock. As shepherds, the pope and bishops had a duty to bring them back into the fold, just as the Good Shepherd had commanded them. So, while medieval secular leaders were trying to safeguard their kingdoms, the Church was trying to save souls. The Inquisition provided a means for heretics to escape death and return to the community.

Most people tried for heresy by the Inquisition were either acquitted or had their sentences suspended. Those found guilty of grave error were allowed to confess their sin, do penance, and be restored to the Body of Christ. The underlying assumption of the Inquisition was that, like lost sheep, heretics had simply strayed.

If, however, an inquisitor determined that a particular sheep had purposely left the flock, there was nothing more that could be done. Unrepentant or obstinate heretics were excommunicated and given over to secular authorities. Despite popular myth, the Inquisition did not burn heretics. It was the secular authorities that held heresy to be a capital offense, not the Church. The simple fact is that the medieval Inquisition saved uncounted thousands of innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people who would otherwise have been roasted by secular lords or mob rule.

Where did this myth come from? After 1530, the Inquisition began to turn its attention to the new heresy of Lutheranism. It was the Protestant Reformation and the rivalries it spawned that would give birth to the myth. Innumerable books and pamphlets poured from the printing presses of Protestant countries at war with Spain accusing the Spanish Inquisition of inhuman depravity and horrible atrocities in the New World.

For more information, see:
The Real Inquisition, By Thomas F. Madden, National Review (2004) http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/madden200406181026.asp
Inquisition by Edward Peters (1988)
The Spanish Inquisition by Henry Kamen (1997)
The Spanish Inquisition: Fact Versus Fiction, By Marvin R. O'Connell (1996): http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0026.html

+ With love in Christ.

Answer 2

There is no such thing as nice religion. It's a tool for control based on fear and guilt: how is that nice?

Now if you believe in god and can disassociate it from religion I think you might be onto a winner.

Personally I'd ban all forms of religous doctrine from the planet, if individuals want to believe in god they should do it privately and most importantly silently.

Answer 3

RE teachers teach the curriculum, surely, theres not time for everything.
Kids find out these things when and if they are ready, you'd give them NIGHTMARES!!!!!!! You scare me!

Answer 4

There should be no RE. Religion is the opium of the masses.

Answer 5

because Real Estate has nothing to do with any of the things you mentioned? and isn't offered to kids?

Answer 6

I'm teaching RE today at my UU church. I'll be happy to mention it.

But generally, we do want them to come back, you know?

Answer 7

I dunno. You also forgot to mention the "Holy" Crusades.