Even if the rat b*stards do eventually get convicted...and not have their case thrown out on a technicality...they spend their time in a warm comfy prison with TV, books, food, recreation, law libraries, gymnasium, college, shop class, conjugal visits, internet, medical care, etc...
What happened to punishment and the rights of the VICTIMS?
2007-03-22 08:30:29 · 10 answers · asked by officer meeney 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
Sheriff Joe in AZ has the right idea. His county jail should be the model for every prison in USA. His return rate is in the single digits.
2007-03-22 08:35:30 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
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2016-06-11 12:01:43 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think that once someone is tried and convicted of a crime, then their victims should have a large voice in what type of punishment they receive. Within reason.
Yes, they do have too many rights and some of the complaints they place and the lawsuits they win, makes me very mad.
And before I get slammed about my views, no I have never been arrested or committed a crime but I have a nephew that has been in and out of prison since he was a teenager and nothing has slowed him down. I feel for every one of his victims and he is back out on the streets again. He is not allowed at my house or around my grandchildren and I feel that if he had ever been treated the way he has treated his victims he would have stopped a long time ago.
2007-03-22 08:54:13 · answer #3 · answered by nana4dakids 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
They've had too many rights for decades.
You know why the jails are overflowing? Because it's not that horrible to be there. Yes, for your regular citizen, it's hell. But for your career criminal, it's nothing. You know a lot of others in there, you have cable TV, internet access, books, newspapers, magazines, meals, clothing, etc.
Back when there was HARD labor and no perks of free life, people didn't want to go to jail. And, those that did go, they rarely went back because it was hell.
There should be work and education, and both should be required to get out. If you don't learn a trade or get some sort of degree, what are you going to do when you get back out? You're going right back to being a criminal.
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2007-03-22 08:33:02 · answer #4 · answered by Shaft 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
WHERE are those prisons you paint so beautifully? You mean those for the super rich and powerful and for politicians? All super rich and powerful AND particularly the crooked, corrupt politicians should go to regular prisons and be made to spend their time with the general population... THAT will teach them what it is like to be among their own criminal kind and those they've cheated, too, and teach them not to do wrong... THAT is a sure-proof deterrent!
Those prisons that you describe are nothing like my brother-in-law (retired Assistant Warden) describes, or my best friend's older (now retired) or a couple of friends (Corrections Officers) I met at the law office I worked at who told me of some serious horror stories they've heard from prisoners living in total fear of being raped or killed or beat up, and how lousy the food is, the medial attention is a joke, and how the guards are known to look the other way while someone is getting raped!
But, let me interject a thought, please. It is NOT the criminals that have those legal rights that people most often complain about... those rights are for EVERYONE! It's like antibiotics, they help cure good people and bad people.
HOW can we discriminate against someone who is merely ACCUSED of a crime... haven't you heard how many innocent people have been released from prison after years behind bars for crimes they did NOT commit but were convicted of by a supposed "fair" trial and judged by a supposed jury of his/her peers?... including those on death row?
I'm sure that you DON'T advocate the notion that people are guilty by virtue of the heinousness of the crime they have been ACCUSED of, right?
And I'm sure that just because someone is UNPOPULAR we should not respect his/her Constitutional rights, freedoms and liberties, right? I mean, you've heard that "There but for the grace of..." well, I think you know the rest of that proverb.
Yes, I understand your sentiments for victims... but, WHAT do you really get when you find someone who is falsely accused of a crime and the police and/or the prosecutor cheats and lies and hides exculpatory evidence...? You get a REAL criminal still out in the loose, committing more crimes!
Do you just want to find SOMEONE guilty and execute SOMEONE or the get the REAL CULPRIT?
And since our judicial system AIN'T perfect, there's always the slim chance that we may have convicted the wrong person... you've heard of a man who repeated said that he was home with his wife and he was accused of rape, and the victim identified him... but YEARS later, DNA of the vaginal swab taken immediately after the rape showed that the accused, tried and convicted prisoner was NOT the guilty person... or here in NYC, some years ago, a man was identified as the man who raped, tortued and killed some women... and the court stenographer was on his way home and saw him making noise and blaring music from his car as they were on the bridge waiting to pay tolls... he got out of his car, ran to the toll officer, used the telephone, called the court and demanded to know why he was out of jail... he gave the license plate number and the man was later picked up... a slighter taller lookalike (not related to the man behind bars) and his fingerprints proved that it was HE who had committed the rape, torture and murder... not the first man they had apprehended and still had in jail!
MISTAKES do happen more often than we like to admit.
HOW do you correct a mistake after you execute a person who is later proven innocent? Victim Rights? Criminal Rights? How about HUMAN RIGHTS?
2007-03-22 08:51:21 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 4⤋
yeah, sometimes i think i should committ a crime so that i wouldnt have to work my butt off for others who dont deserve it. the system is whack!! where is my medical care? i can't even afford to go the dentist but i have to give my money to someone who is helping destroy society? nice.... but i guess life isnt fair and there is not much we can do about it right now.....sucks!!
2007-03-22 08:39:14 · answer #6 · answered by red_kat_in_stripes 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Congratulations, you've obviously never been incarcerated. Unfortunately, it means you absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Watch less TV.
They have the same rights as you, until they've been convicted. Including the right to remain silent.
2007-03-22 08:35:57 · answer #7 · answered by Beardog 7 · 4⤊ 5⤋
That's the way I see it, once you become a criminal, you get stripped of all of your rights and become a piece of property.
2007-03-22 08:46:32 · answer #8 · answered by Thomas S 1 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They shouldn't be allowed to have or do anything except be on a chain gang and work for their cigarettes and food.
2007-03-22 12:12:54 · answer #9 · answered by Kevin A 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
No. We've got too many laws creating too many criminals.
2007-03-22 08:34:24 · answer #10 · answered by Michael E 5 · 0⤊ 5⤋