Note: I said most, not all. Even 51% would be something to reckon with, but I think it's more like 70% or more. If feminists would like to win the hearts and minds of the average thinking man, this is a difficult area. The taste for bad boys and the desire to be "taken care of" range with these women both in manifestation and degree, but the existence of both in a woman who demands respect comes off as uttlerly ludacris to most guys. This IS a big portion of today's women's movement, answering questions like mine. You might like to think it's all about equal pay for equal work, equal choices, reproductive rights and other (more quantifiable/legal) issues, but it's not. Would you have more thoughtful, powerful men rallying for these issues by your side if you paid more attention to concepts similar to the one in my question? I think so.
2007-03-22 05:05:14 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Social Science ➔ Gender Studies
Yes, grammar and spelling are not my strong suit. Try not to let it detract from my point.
2007-03-22 06:11:52 · update #1
Feminism has gained a lot of freedom from the problems of the past. Now it is time to consider what women want, what men want, and how they fit together in a new and better way.
Perhaps some women want men to look after them, but also to give them freedom? Perhaps some men want to look after their woman, but not be totally responsible for them... That might be a good way for things to go.
We can choose what form we want the relationship between men and women to be, but if we choose something based on an ideal of ultimate freedom, it may not make for much happiness. Let us choose a new way of relating based on love and happiness, and what we really want.
2007-03-22 05:50:49 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
i think the taste for bad boys is twofold:
1) artificially constructed by advertising and media that emasculates men who dare to value emotional intimacy over sexual intimacy and encourage girls that the bad boys are more manly and attractive. It all plays into a constructed notion of masculinity and a constructed notion of femininity as well as the constructed way they are supposed to interact
2) it is a reaction to a society that demonizes women for being wild and sexual, so she is attracted to wild sexuality as a rebellion.
As far as the wanting to be taken care of, if that is her choice, and she finds people in her life willing to accommodate her, then i don't think there is any argument to be had. I also think that this is recognized by some feminist theorists and women in the movement. I cannot speak for the movement as a whole, no one can, but i know there are some who would agree with me on this.
I don't think the majority of feminists are against a woman choosing what could be seen as a more traditional role, as long as she has a choice. The idea that we might is something that i feel has been made up and over blown. The only feminists that i have heard speak this way in the last ten years were all in high school and were new to the ideas of feminism. they had not yet had a chance to read any of the theory behind it.
2007-03-22 05:33:35 · answer #2 · answered by bluestareyed 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Portwine,
As a person who respects you even when I disagree with your opinion--because of your intelligence and usual lack of flames--I can't think for a moment that you believe this!
Do you honestly think that the ''70% of women who prefer bad boys..." can find that 70% of men ARE bad boys?
If you want to argue constructively and use statistics to prove your point, you should do research, think it through , and then have some back-up for your numbers. You can't just pull numbers out of a hat based on your observations & opinions.
My other problem with your and others' posts is "Ludacris" with that spelling is a singer, not an ''idiotic concept'' (although this point is admittedly arguable, since I don't like Rap music and consider it and the singers, ludicrous).
The word you are seeking is" ludicrous".
And if you look around somewhere besides High School and Hollywood, the decent women do NOT like Bad Boys who pretend to be men.
Good luck
2007-03-22 06:10:12 · answer #3 · answered by Croa 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I disagree that these are only women's issue -- I think it is human nature to desire being taken care of. Men and women want a partner who will take care of them in some way, listening to them after a difficult day, helping them when they are under a lot of stress, caring for them when they don't feel well.
I think the "taste for" bad boys isn't a majority/minority issue I think it is an age and maturity issue. Just as many men want the easy girl when they younger (no commitment, fun and naughty) the younger women want to have the bad boys. When you get older and decide to settle down you look for a different type.
2007-03-22 06:49:20 · answer #4 · answered by ecogeek4ever 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
people have different tastes, and having a tendency to be drawn to 'bad boy' types isn't necesarily that bad (except when they truly are bad people, like ted bundy & the like). as most men kinda project this image (either as a result or before, i dont know) but are actually 'good guys' at heart.
the issue of women expecting to be taken care of by men is one that truly annoys me. i don't think any adult should expect anyone else to take care of them all the time (of course, in a good relationship partners take care of each other, but that is give & take) i think it may be a left-over ideal from before feminism, to be a 'pampered housewife'. but in reality, housewives back then did a lot more work in the home (think pre-washer/dryer & dishwashers) so they weren't really 'pampered' like some (not nearly all) housewives of today are.
not to mention, i think it is a bad choice for women (or anyone) to rely solely on a man(person) for their well being and future for several reasons.
1) no one can take responsibilty for another's happiness, that is an inner being issue; also, being secure and able to take care of oneself if need be can really help self-esteem
2) in the case of divorce, it is unfair to both sides if each person cannot be self-sufficient, and the standard of living will drop for both
3) if there is a death of the 'dependee' the 'depender' is SOL unless there's a lot of life insurance
4) for financial security, in cases of death or divorce (as stated), unemployment, serious injury, unexpected costs, it is better if both people are able to work, ie, have job skills enough to help support the family (or themselves) financially in difficult times
2007-03-22 05:32:53 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Feminism is for the woman who wants to take care of herself. You see that's a lot of work and MOST of the world is lazy.
Feminists have stronger work ethics. They have no problem with it.
As for the bad boys, that's psychology and some women just want to keep that domineering daddy around who spanks her and takes away her dolls so she can pout and cry.
Don't ask why on that one.
Why do guys always marry girls that are similar to their mothers.
Same reason probably.
2007-03-22 06:13:57 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
It does not matter who is in the majority and who is in the minority.
Like any personal choice, a majority cannot make the decision for all people. That is why the USA is a democratic republic NOT a democracy. Rule by majority is tyranny. Only if minority opinions get representation can individuals live happily.
2007-03-22 05:24:30 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Go ask all the wannabe bad boys with tatoos and piercings.
2007-03-22 05:13:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
All women really want are men with plenty of money and a big cock. Feminists are in a tiny minority of women
2007-03-22 05:08:27 · answer #9 · answered by Sean D 3 · 0⤊ 3⤋