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Without legal advice of any kind, and with coercion, parents signed a "voluntary" relinquishment of custody to the grandparents. This was following several false reports to cps, one attempted family abduction, pressuring the father to file a fraudulent divorce petition, and finally running with the kids. Grandparents then file for "emergency" custody.. concealing other prior events, and covering up actual motives. And that is just a brief summary of the lies told.
Attorneys, please - what is your thoughts on this? Likelihood that parents can get agreement vacated, on grounds of fraud? After how long? Parnets continued to be pressured into belief that it was "legal".

2007-03-22 00:47:50 · 3 answers · asked by wendy c 7 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

addition- parents were retaliated against for moving away from grandparents...
concealed evidence would have shown fraud and/or perjury... by coercing into agreement, prevented judge from hearing testimony since parties "reached agreement".
both parents were screwed

2007-03-22 02:30:59 · update #1

looks like "votes" are making exactly the same exact wrong assumption as the first poster, with no knowledge of the events at all... that the grandparents "must" be good persons, looking out for the welfare of the children: that the parents "must" have been neglecting or harming the children; and grandparents "can't" possibly have committed perjury, or abducted the children WITHOUT ANY GROUNDS.
That is exactly where the fraud happened, and yes, there is ample proof of what I am stating.
And I am not one of the parents, I am a 3rd party.

2007-03-22 12:00:04 · update #2

Best answer has some fallacies, but at least did not make the assumption that I can't know what fraud is, or that it happened.

2007-03-24 04:57:39 · update #3

3 answers

what a MESS. and what a hard situation for that parent who was screwed.

cant they petition the court (write a letter to the judge), as well as sending a copy of that letter to judcial dept (state/federal), county DA, and so forth?

that is fraud... illegal as hell.

i would report any judge who allowed such a thing without asking the key questions; such as, where is the other parent, etc. as well as appeal it.

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2007-03-22 01:34:36 · answer #1 · answered by Yvette B yvetteb 6 · 0 2

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2016-09-05 11:46:51 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

To begin , you must be able to show and proove fraud..Pressuring of parents by grandparents is or can be interpreted looking out for the best interests of the children. And in the end this is what it comes down to. In all family court cases the principles all put their best foot forward and kick their baggage into a corner, hoping that the other side will forget or not remember . If you can show the court that you have a stable homelife, can provide for the children as normal parents, you have a chance to regain custody. That agreement is ' legal'. You can apply to have it vacated or altered. If you can show undue and extreme pressure so much better. Get an attorny who specializes in family law. Good luck.

2007-03-22 01:29:39 · answer #3 · answered by reinformer 6 · 2 2

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