What do you think about the rules to allow schools to forbid the full-face veil?

Answer 1

If these people come to our country they live by our rules.

Answer 2

Schools need to forbid the veils for two reasons.
1 - Security. Nobody in a public school should be allowed to conceal their identity.
2 - Education. Schools should have uniforms. It takes away the negative impact made by students identifying themselves too much with one group or another. Cliques take away from the attention to learning which is why the children are there. Where I used to work (juvenile probation officer) we were always trying to stop the children from identifying their gang affiliation while together, because it detracted too much from our main goals.

As an evangelical Christian, of course I believe that Islam is a bad thing. But that's not why this is a good ruling. I don't think there's any value in forcing people to "not act Muslim." It is the heart that must change for salvation to happen. That is a separate issue.

Answer 3

Be very careful folks.
Wearing the veil in a school dedicated and wholly staffed by Muslims with no children, other than Muslims, let them do it.

When in a State School where British non-Muslims are present, the school uniform must be worn.

When attending Court as a defendant or witness, no veil to be worn.

When using transport and the full face is required for identification, no veil.

We live in a Democracy but when there is evidence of misuse, by wearing anything that leads to any official being unable to readily identify the person, my view is that nothing should obstruct the responsibilities of that official.

Answer 4

It appears to me that many ahve missed the point of asking the question. If we are simply going to say, "Rules are rules" or "When in America, live as an American," then we fail to question why the rule is there. There is nothing illegal about wearing the full-face veil in public by either state or federal legislature. It is an administrative policy by various school boards. The question we should be answering is what are teh origins of this policy and is the policy correct from an educational pedagogy.

I think that it is correct, through possibly insensitive. The wearing of teh full-face veil in American public schools is a diffuclt thing to allow because it can allow for anominity of identity, thereby making it difficult for any teacher to verify that any test taken by a person wearing teh veil is in fact teh person they claim to be. Also, the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the Establishment clause (separation fo Church and State) on numerous occasions with regards to the classroom. The wearing of the veil is a religious and cultural practice. As a religious pratice, it has no place in the American public school. As a cultural practice, it has no palce either. It is not out of disrespect, but out of educational and classroom management necessities.

If a teacher or student wants to wear the veil to school, there are plenty of private schools around the country which may allow such a thing. If the class of people who want to wear these things want to wear them in public school, then they should bring it before the U.S. Supreme Court. Though, the court on numerous occasions has upheld teh school boards decision to prohibit the wearing of certain clothing and certain kinds of speech when they go against the "educational mission" of the school.

No disrespect intended to any religion or culture, but there is a difference betwen exposure to and education of religion and culture, and practicing those two things contrary to the Establishment clause of teh U.S. Constitution.

Answer 5

Law says you have to go to school, the law says you can not wear a veil so that this girl can learn that the veil doesnt make you safer or better thus allowing a young woman a reasonable amount of freedom from a repressive religious edict.
So I think its a good law that will help these women adapt to living in a country with freedom.

Answer 6

The veil can be disturbing... In Rome....
There is nothing xenophobic in that. If you come to a country, you bring with you your past, your traditions, your beliefs and so on. But if you moved from your country and choose what country to go to, you surely want to integrate that society.
You do not come to the UK to impose your way of life, quite the opposite, otherwise, you should have stayed at home, doing your stuff...
I believe a mixed community is an asset but MIXED not segregated. To this extend, the veil is a clear message that says I AM NOT LIKE YOU.... Where is the spirituality in that?

Answer 7

Clothing such as the veil and burkha have no place in the UK and especially no place in schools and the sooner they are all banned from wearing them anywhere in public the better, you only have to see that CCTV footage of the London bomber trying to escape wearing one. If people want to wear certain items of clothing for religious purposes, they should go to wherever their religion and its ways are more socially acceptable.
From a health and safety point of view they should not be allowed, I am sick of reading about all these allowance being suggested for these people, if they don't like the culture they chose to live in, clear off somewhere else. It only seem to tbe the UK that panders to these people, it certianly doesnt happen here in Spain, you do things the spanish way and thats it, and we don't see the Moroccan muslims kicking off about it, they accept their way is not the way of this culture and stay very much in the background.
I am not being racist, I dont give a fig where anyone is from, but it jars me when people chose to live in a country that is so different and then expects that host counrty to bow to them

Answer 8

Im all for it, the girls who wear these hide behind thier religion when it is not actually a religious garment what so ever, they are expected to cover thier heads and the full Veil is taking it a step too far.

These people are now just making a statement, and you seem to see more and more of them around.

If a school says not to wear them then that pupil has to abide. I wasnt allowed to wear football colours as it may insight violence and its pretty much the same story

Answer 9

It seems ludicrous that in a society where the buzz word is "transparency" the wearing of veils was ever tolerated. There are some subjects for which it is vital to see a person's face -- language teaching and singing, for example. I continue to wonder how wearing the veil fitted in to school sports. Was it, inter alia, a way of getting out of unnecessary physical activity?

Answer 10

My son is Catholic and wore a cross to School he was told to remove it or be excluded.
I am so very tired of listening and seeing Muslims cry about there rights.
Do you see the Chinese? Italians? Portuguese? or any other culture new to our Country shouting and forcing their beliefs onto the British. NO!
Muslims need to realise that this is England and we have structure and rules. If they wish to wear the veil - go home or find a Muslim School. Its about time these people learnt to "blend in" and stop being so radical.

Answer 11

anyone wearing a full veil could get into a school and our kids are vulnerable.
As are the adults who did not put the rule in place to begin with.