Do you agree with me that GANDHI WAS A HYPOCRITE???

Question

Mahatmi Gandhi one remarked "I like you're Christ but I do not like you're Christians." .

He didn't like Christians (I am assuming due to their actions in history) but he worshiped and admired Muslims - the same people who were responsible for the murder of nearly 100 million hindus at one point in History and the rape of an even greater number of hindu women. He had no problem praising the Muslims, despite the fact that their actions in history had been just as despicable and sikening as those of Christians.

I agree that the Christians aren't perfect, but Hindus suffered much much much more at the hands of islam than we did at the hands of Christianity. The biggest genocide in history was that which was undertaken by Muslims against Hindus; hindu Temples were all bulldosed and replaced with Mosques and many hindus were forced to become Muslim. They became 2nd class.

Do you agree with me that by making such a comment, Gandhi was historically blind as well as a hypocrite???

Dear Mig, Before teaching me about my history, go and learn yours. The school Curriculum in India is distorted, inaccurate and bias to such an extent (courtesy to Congress which Indians keep foolishly voting in) that Indians are clueless about what actually happened in the history of Human civilisation. Here in London we have a scholarship that is neutral and impartial and thus many can understand both sides of the argument. In India, from childhood Indians are taught a bunch of LIES. The Congress Government will not permit any literature or discourse that is critical of these Muslims and as a result many Indians do not fully appreciate the horrors that Hindus endured under the Mughals.

Instead Indians are taught to hate everything that is western and are deliberately hidden from any knowledge that will encourage patriotism and Hindu pride.

Dear Mr Plato, when I said "scholarship" I meant "INTELLECTUAL SCHOLARSHIP" as in books. NOT "Educational Funding"

Dear Mr sushobhan, That is EXACTLY what I mean when I say that Indians are taught a bunch of lies. That is exactly what the Congress govt want you to believe - that without Gandhi India would have still been in the clutches of the evil white empire. I have studied primary documents in London and I can state that India was granted Independence because the BRITISH COULDN'T AFFORD TO KEEP IT AFTER WORLD WAR 2. Gandhi WAS AN EXCUSE THE BRITISH USED.

Dear Mr chandrasekharan k,

So what do you suggest that we simply stop studying history??? We simply stop analysing historical figures because they have all died and are not present to argue their case????

YOUR ARGUMENT IS ILLOGICAL!!!

Dear MIG!!!!!!!

100 Million Hindus NOT in one go, but under the entire duration of Muslim rule!!! Do you know that Muslim clerics and religious leaders "educated" Muslim men to rape hindu women??? This was because they thought the destruction of Hindu progeny would denote the destruction of Hinduism!!!

Answer 1

No, I don't completely agree with you.

You are saying Gandhiji told "I like you're Christ but I do not like you're Christians.", but what is the situation in which he used those words; that must also be taken into consideration.

The situation is very important.

I agree that Muslims have equally committed crimes aganist Hindus.

But, Gandhiji was a person who goes well with all the community people. He wanted us to be Indians - he liked annie besant and jinnah - who are from christin and Muslim community. So, without considering the situation it is wrong to call him a hypocrite.

Answer 2

so,...mr.hanslaxman...u r saying that gandhi ji was actually an excuse for our independance?
so let me tell u then, why was it that INDIA WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP AFTER THE SECOND WW?
that was because there were mass protests, once already the empire had been threatened by the japanese and IF THERE HAD BEEN NO NON-COOPERATION movement, the indians would have SUPPORTED the british
in this case,..it was VERY MUCH POSSIBLE that the british would have ruled over n above india for too long...even after the world war 2

what do u do when someone shows defiance to u?
that was the weapon of gandhi..dont u realise?
subhash's army was a great threat...but still it suffered a defeat.....
gandhi's only army was the people of india--the masses---its weapon--was defiance---no one can beat defiance---it was not an army which could be defeated but an unending clarion call to the people of the country to fire them

he was the one who united india's cause....he strenghened the people and made them united so the fight was even more fierce
he involved the women in the national movement

U DO NOT SEE WHY TO HELL GANDHI MADE THAT REMARK!
IT WAS DIPLOMACY...COULDNT U SEE?
the british were all christians
there was hindu-muslim diunity and anarchy ,mass ,violent riots all over india...he wanted their reunion
thats why he praised islam

he says 'i like christ'.....he means that christianity was a good religion
but he says that 'he did not like christians'...why? because the british were christians who were imposing such a tyranny on us!
by shedding them away:
he would reach two objectives----
1) that woud PACIFY the muslims(most)....
2)the muslims would unite with the hindus

he was NOT historically blind but presently very awake..he knew what consequnces would be reched by each word n action of his!

he PREPARED the way and the cause for the british leaving india ultimatley....did u think of that? i s'pose not....

had gandhi ji not been here,,,,u wouldnt have probably been typing away sitting where u are


i have thereby put EVERY point of urs to a dead end!...now come n say what u have to...NOW defy what i have said...u will find the truth there.........

Answer 3

Hindus have suffered both in hands of Muslims and Christians. Both indulged in vandalism. The Muslims converted millions of Hindus under threat of death. The Europeans did not terrorise in the manner the former did. However, their methods of proselytising has been more subtle and lethal. Propaganda, economic inducement and creating disaffection among the economically vulnerable sections of the Hindu society against the better off. The Christians affront is still continuing. You must understand why Gandhi said the statement about the Christians. The christian church's teachings are very often contrary to what Christ himself had meant and lived for. Much of the Church's views are contrary to science so much so that the Pope had to apologise for the earlier views.

Answer 4

"The school Curriculum in India is distorted, inaccurate and bias to such an extent (courtesy to Congress which Indians keep foolishly voting in) that Indians are clueless about what actually happened in the history of Human civilisation."
Dear H.L., I bet, you have never been to India and know ntohing about India. Indian vote to the parties they trust in. Although Congress ruled the country for a while after independence, but today it has to seek other parties help. Other parties are credited for development. They have formed their own government and ruled the nation efficiently.

"Here in London we have a scholarship that is neutral and impartial and thus many can understand both sides of the argument. In India, from childhood Indians are taught a bunch of LIES. The Congress Government will not permit any literature or discourse that is critical of these Muslims and as a result many Indians do not fully appreciate the horrors that Hindus endured under the Mughals. Instead Indians are taught to hate everything that is western and are deliberately hidden from any knowledge that will encourage patriotism and Hindu pride."
Again, you have never gone through Indian books have you. Neither do you have any idea about administrative and curriculum details about Indian education. Indian education systme impartys scholartship to students based on merits and financial conditions. Education board is an independant authority, adminsitered separately. each state in inda is ruled by different political parties. Each state has it's own education system. And about critic views over religions, It's not imparted in any of these education system. Neither towards muslims nor towards west.


1> "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
2> "Gandhi said he would convert to Christianity if he ever found a church that actually followed the teachings of Jesus."
3> Gaindhiji's word - "Thus if I could not accept Christianity either as a perfect, or the greatest religion, neither was I then convinced of Hinduism being such. Hindu defects were pressingly visible to me. If untouchability could be a part of Hinduism, it could but be a rotten part or an excrescence. I could not understand the raison d'etre of a multitude of sects and castes. What was the meaning of saying that the Vedas were the inspired Word of God? If they were inspired, why not also the Bible and the Koran? As Christian friends were endeavouring to convert me, so were Muslim friends. Abdullah Sheth had kept on inducing me to study Islam, and of course he had always something to say regarding its beauty." (source: his autobiography) "As soon as we lose the moral basis, we cease to be religious. There is no such thing as religion over-riding morality. Man, for instance, cannot be untruthful, cruel or incontinent and claim to have God on his side."
"The sayings of Muhammad are a treasure of wisdom, not only for Muslims but for all of mankind." Later in his life when he was asked whether he was a Hindu, he replied: "Yes I am. I am also a Christian, a Muslim, a Buddhist and a Jew."
4> When asked what advice he had for Christians, Gandhi replied, “First, I suggest that all Christians must begin to live more like Jesus Christ. Second, practice your religion without adulterating it or toning it down. Third, emphasize love and make it your working force, for love is central in Christianity. Fourth, study the non-Christian religions more sympathetically to find the good that is within them, in order to have a more sympathetic approach to people.” We Christians need to heed that advice today more than ever.

Friend you paid some attention towards the first point of Gandhiji's statement. Now pay some attention to other few statements of his and decide, whether he was a hypocrite or not.

All the best...

:-)

Answer 5

You re ignorant...but nonetheless, you learned an important lesson today....The study of history is not glamorous. Religion has been the cause of many wars throughout history and that is evident today with the world's current wars.

To make the irrational claim that one, especially the great Gandhi, is a hypocrite, only proves one thing:

The poser of the question, himself, is a hypocrite. As humans, we should not criticize others unless we are perfect. And the last time I checked, there are very few people thought to be perfect throughout history, and none are living today. Therefore, I recommend removing your profile and creating a new one for fear or extreme ridicule and embarrassment.

Answer 6

Every youth In India knew what a type of hypocrite is Gandhi, but when you go and ask them what do you think of Gandhi , they would say the usual things he is Mahatma, and **** against their will...
Why is that because they fear an assault by the COngress goon...
Someone in this forum mentioned the name Tippu Sultan, this dared to mentiona a terrorist name (Tippu Sultan) in the same breadth as Gandhi and Nehru, shamefull indeed....
Sleeping naked with 13 and 14 year old children to test his Bramachariya(control of sexual passions), blackmailing one of the great sons of India(Subash Chandra Bose) to step down from the Congress presidency(when he was overwhelmingly voted to the psot), not doing anything while our beloved hero of the masses Baghat Singh is being hanged, when even the King of Norway wrote a letter to British India to do not execute him, Gandhi did not ecven request to stop hanging him, where was satyagrah to stop his execution...
He systematically eliminated all the great sons of India(Subash, Bagat, Chadra Sheka Azad) and selected like minded hypocrites around him so that only they would not question his authority.....
Majority of India, still lives in ignorance of Gandhi's life and they know Gandhi only by their learnign in school text book, even though many of the Indian youth know the Hypocricy of gandhi and his policy of non violence and bad mouth him very freely and liberally, how long can the Congress keep the lie of Gandhi and his acheivements

Answer 7

No human being can be "perfect". The achievements and overall character/ behavior of a man/ woman is to be viewed not by a few stray incidents nor is it based on generalities. But, instead, we should judge an individual based on his/ her overall contribution to the society, through their "life-efforts" and achievements. In achieving such levels of goals and objectives, every individual would have to sacrifice a great amount of things in life (comfort, money, family...and so on). Such "stressed" engagement in ones pet ideas and themes, toward achieving set goals/ objectives would create conditions in behavior of any individual to be at times a bit "irrational". But in the overall analyses these aberrations would never have any effect on the defined Goal Achievements.

Gandhiji, Nehru, Tipu Sultan, Mother Teresa ... and many hundreds of such achievers fall in this category.

It is easy for us to pass comments and sit on judgment, without having any idea of the exact situations under which even if such aberrations did occur. However, we should not loose sight of their overall achievements. And, it may be added here that there is nothing wrong in our having a different view about such things. For example, the Killing of Gandhiji by the Hindu Extreme groups cannot be considered an aberration, as they considered him as the thorn in their THEMES - wanting to eliminate him for their cause. But, whether they were "right" or "wrong" is something the society has to consider, within the LAW of the land as well as on the basis of our CONSTITUTION.

Answer 8

No. An autobiography of any great man must be full of paradoxes, controversial situations, beliefs in conflict with set concepts and religious practises, communities but that cannot attribute a person to be a hypocrite. The greatness lies in overcoming ones weaknesses, accepting truths, practising them in life to attain moral purity, spiritual heights to shine above everybody entitling him to be called the great. This is true with Mahatma Gandhi.

Answer 9

Gandhi was having deep trust in non -violence,fraternity and brother-hood.He was convinced that if India is to be kept undivided,there should be brotherhood between the various religious and social sects.If there is tolerance,one can survive.Hinduism is oldest religion and still surviving.Other religion have come and gone because there was lack of tolerance.He was neither hypocrite nor historically blind.

Answer 10

I think you have warped Gandhi's statement to your convenience. I believe Gandhi had said "I like Christ, but I do not like Christians because they are not like Christ". And the number 100 million looks impressive (and even greater number of Hindu women???) and I am keen on knowing from where you got that figure.

You are manipulating facts and making ludicrous statements. Why resort to such tactics?
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Thanks for enlightening me about your neutral and impartial history education. I bet they would have glorified Jalianwala Bagh!"

BTW, I'd humbly disclose something that your "neutral and impartial" scholarship seems to have overlooked, India had its share of non-Congress governments.