If we don't fight them over there, how exactly are they going to get here?

Question

Suppose Bush's "nightmare scenario" comes true and we lose Iraq to the Iraqi citizens who are currently fighting our troops.

So what? Iraq is still 9,000 miles away, Iraq has no air force, navy, or missile capacity. I fail to see ANY way that Iraq could EVER be a real threat to the United States.

OK, let's just screen everyone who gets on a commercial aircraft to make sure they aren't terrorists and don't have weapons.

Oh wait - we already do that. And it doesn't cost $350 billion and hundreds of thousands of lives.

Great LeAnne, do you think killing 650,000 Iraqis makes it any harder for 19 people to do that again?

Quit underestimating the intelligence of the American people.

Answer 1

On Marc Rich's jet...Clinton pardoned him his felonies, remember?

Answer 2

If we "lose" Iraq it won't be to the "citizens", it will be to special interest groups who wish to control all, or part, of Iraq through terror, killings, whippings, beheadings, and other militant tactics. We will not lose Iraq to a government elected by the people. They have that now.

We have never worried about Iraqis attacking America's homeland (per se). But we are now worried about terrorists setting up training camps in the vacuum left were we to withdraw, and THOSE people exporting terror acts around the world (as they did in Afghanistan).

And they will travel the same way anyone else does. We know some of the people we don't want in, and we won't let them in. But we can't simply exclude everyone from coming in to visit, can we Ling Hair? And we don't, and won't, know their intentions until we've already let them in.

But Iraq NOW isn't about exporting terror, nor was it ever, in primary. It was about nuclear proliferation, which certainly isn't a concern now.

So were are ALL clear: Iraq was NEVER a large battlefield in the "War on Terror", it was a battle which had to happen at the same time, really by coincidence. But it has become THE primary battlefield in the "War on Terror". That's not a bad thing, as any General will tell you it is best if we can choose the battlefield, rather than allowing the enemy to choose it for us.

Does anyone really think the terrorists will quit when we leave Iraq?? Seriously?

We STAY in Iraq today for four reasons:

1) Humanitarian. We created the chaos by removing the security apparatus in Iraq. We are responsible for protecting the civilians from ethnic cleansing.

2) If we DON'T protect the civilians, other nations will step into the vacuum to do so, on each side, and the sectarian war will have defacto spread outside of Iraq.

3) We leave and the terrorists will again be able to focus on attacks on our homeland.

4) We leave and the entire middle east is left unstable, with the strongest apparant force being radical islamists, which they aren't now, regardless of the hype. Today, they are a minority, and control NOT ONE COUNTRY. If we leave, there could be a domino effect, where other governments, and countries, fall to extremist radicals. THIS IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, even above the exporting of terror to our homeland immidiately.

In general, though, Long Hair, I'd agree with your proposition that the war in Iraq doesn't reduce the terrorist threat on the U.S. homeland directly. But the residual effects do indeed reduce the actual attacks. In primary, by being a far easier target while we're there, they have no need to attempt the more difficult cross-ocean trip. I'm glad to give them armed soldiers to attack, rather than unarmed grocery-shopping civilians here in the states.

Answer 3

Last night somebody said "camel flotilla"---and I'm still laughing!

But, seriously, you ask a good question. And, by way of extending your question to the next logical level, why would Iraqis want to hurt the US? (well, before the "war", that is)

If people don't think there are already potential "terrorists" IN the United States, they are very naive. Even some of our own citizens would like to commit "terrorist" acts. (What was the Oklahoma bombing? The Olympic bombing? The shootings in schools? The killing of the Amish children? The murders at day care centers, McDonald's, etc. etc.)

Answer 4

Bush it taking the biggest hit for this war !!!

But it is not all his fault !!! You are now asking what do I mean.

Well what the hell was usa, doing making arms and oil deals with middle east countries all through the 60's 70's and 80's ??? We bought into this for years. We gave and sold arms to Iraq years ago when they fought Iran, and countless other deals. Then made american millitary bases all over the middle east.

Bush says we should take a stand against all countries that support terrorists ??? Oh Really. Time to question U.S History Mr Bush ???

And wmd. When it comes to bombs, stealth air crafts, nuclear bombs and technology USA is really one of the most destructive countries on Earth.
After the war with Isreal and Lebanon last summer, I would rank Isreal as equal or a very close second !!

HMMMM

Answer 5

The 1% of Muslims who feel they need to destroy all of the infidels would feel empowered. All of the people in Iraq are not Iraqis, they are from all over the middle east to fight the Jihad against the Americans.

Who needs a missile when they have plenty of willing martyrs all over the world. Would hate to see suicide bombers make an appearance on US soil.

Answer 6

You need to be seriously updated. First, terrorists are paying the Mex group MS-13 $25,000-30,000 to help them cross the border to here(that's a real friend). Second, if you goto 'The Muslim Brotherhood-the Project', you will see there is a master plan now under way of taking over US. I've heard 3 govt officials state, for some reason, that the radicals here are a small separated number. Either they are lying or inefficient.

Answer 7

Firstly, Iraq isn't 'ours' to lose. We may well lose face, by not being able to bring 'American style' democracy as we intended - but thats about it. And secondly, its not the Iraqis that America needs to worry about! Bush is doing all he can to instill fear of the 'enemy' to cover his pathetic tracks. And its working...look at how many people believe the propaganda about the War on Terror being fought in Iraq! Its amazing, isn't it???

Answer 8

Last time, the ones that weren't already in the country on expired visas came down through Canada, into Maine, flew out of Portland to Logan and the rest is history.
They had no army, no air force, no missile capacity and we lost almost 3000 innocent people in one day.
Never be so foolish as to underestimate your adversary.

Answer 9

Bush claims that the fight on terrorism is world wide. How does defeating them in just Iraq relate to defeating them in the rest of the world? Are we going to invade every country in the world we suspect of harboring terrorists?

Answer 10

Commercial aircraft. We are not dealing with a conventional army, or even a normal guerrilla army. Terrorists operate in very small groups.

Answer 11

Not for anything, but remember the 19 guys on 9/11/01?

The were from 9,000 miles away too.