Should secondary schools have "sin bin" rooms and Saturday morning detentions for badly behaved pupils?

Question

Opinions please.

Answer 1

The problem with sin bins is that it does not discourage bad behaviour - in fact the students may deliberately behave badly in order to get out of their lesson and meet their mates in the sin bin.

In a large school you could end up with more than a class full of students in the sin bin - how would you staff it?

Withdrawal from lessons is never a good punishment - if they wanted to really be there in the first place they wouldn't behave badly enough to be withdrawn. I know that bad behaviour can disrupt the learning of others but as far as I'm aware there still is a legal entitlement to education for every child in this country.

Another respondent is right - there are reasons for bad behaviour and dis-applying students does not help them.

Saturday morning detentions - bring it on, as long as teachers don't have to staff it. We do it at our school for persistently bad behaviour - the deputy and head teachers take it.

Students usually only appear there once or twice - the embarrassment of having to go to school in full uniform on a Saturday usually does the trick (regardless of whatever causes their bad behaviour).

Answer 2

at my old school we had both sat detentions and sin bins but they were called isolation rooms though. I think they work well as you are still in the school but away from your mates and still in a controlled environment sending kids home does not work as a lot of parents work and can not be home to watch what the kids are up to.

As for Saturday morning detentions we had them as well and we had to come in to school for 9 00 and leave at 11 00 in full uniform if you did not turn up you would then be in isolation for a couple of days. There was still people excluded but that was mostly for fighting.

I think that teachers need alot more of a hands on roll with the school discipline rather then just removing the problem all the time

Answer 3

they wouldnt turn up and i bet the law wouldnt enforce it, although something should be done, in a school near me they had to cancel parents evening because the teachers were getting 'set about' by parents not keen on hearing a few home truths, now a school report by post is what they get...so if the parents are like that, what chance do the school have with the pupils...kids that are badly behaved need educated, but i think detention isnt the answer, schools should be constructive in their punishment, ie local issues..cleaning up the canals and rivers or recycling....this would be productive as well as the kids learning stuff about the environment

Answer 4

How on earth would they force kids to come into school for Saturday detentions?
My opinion; most kids with behaviour problems actually have real issues that should have been dealt with years ago, or just don't 'work' in the same way as the education system. There are no easy answers, but school can be very frustrating if you don't find it easy to learn while sitting still and silently at a desk

Answer 5

My school has both Saterday school and ISS ( in school suspesnsion) Rooms which may be what you mean by ' Sin Bin " rooms. My Personal oppion is that yes schools should have them. Schools should have a place to remove the disruptive students to and Saterschool is one punishment that makes kids think about what they did. I hate when the teachers let disruptive kids and rude people stay and interupt my learning and hinder my future. I am all for the rooms! For my school to be sent you first go to your administator ( done by last name and there are 4 different ones) and then they decide to ither deal with it themselves and work something out or you meet with the head of security and they decide!
Sooo yes I think those rooms are perfect for kids who can not handle them selves in school!

Answer 6

John, I'll let you be the judge. A student at my school was required to attend ONE Saturday School with a parent . Here's what happened before he was assigned: ( he came because expulsion was next on the agenda )

He keyed a teacher's car ( caught on tape)
He set the trash can in the restroom on fire.
He threw a stapler at his coach.
He dunked an under classman's head in the toilet.

Would you like to deal with this kid every day for an entire year??? And believe, me, he is one of many that teachers have to accept into their classroom whether they want to or not. The law and parents are righteous when it comes to the students... but teachers are expected to accept bullies and mental cases that comes through the door. Case in point... one year I had a student who spent time in a mental hospital because he had set his brother on fire.

Answer 7

Yes, as i am sure that all scecondary schools have at least 1 misbehaving kid and some don't get punished effectively which encourages them it is totally not teh wrong thing to do so they misbehave again. Misbehaving kids is the main reason i want to be a primary school teacher and preferably not a secondary school teacher as secondary school kids know they need to learn things/it is important to learn but don't want to.

Answer 8

Yes of course. No school will thrive without rigid discipline. At my kids' school they have a system of progressively worse punishments:
weekday after school detention, then Friday detention, then Saturday, then holiday detention.
The kids turn up because they know the next punishment is harsher. If they don't turn up, they get suspended, then they get kicked out.
It works.
Most of the kids are great (there are 1400 of them and it's a state school) and they all know the score.

Answer 9

No they shouldnt atall.

school is bad enough

im 15

& in yr 10

6 hours of school is hell for me & im one of the good pupils!

i don get bulied or n e thing like that

its entirely the ammount of work & lack of sleep i get.

ive seen on the news that
scientists have figured out that teenagers need alot more sleep & should get up at around about 10.

i get up & 7

to get ready for sklll

If i had any more skl time

i would be suicidal

or collapse because im overworked already!

I Rest my case


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hope this helps
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Answer 10

this entire concern of this woman ought to be solved if the college grow to be waiting to bend the brat over and make her backside so sore she ought to no longer take a seat for a week!! additionally a warning that to any extent further undesirable behaviour at school might consequence in the comparable hiding being administered lower back. the mum and father ought to be made to pay reimbursement to this instructor - perhaps advertising the electrical powered video games and leaving the brat with a mattress to sleep on and a few outfits to placed directly to help instill the message that mendacity, cheating and undesirable behaviour has many effects. i do no longer think of she ought to pay for all of it her existence - that's for murderers, rapists, drug sellers etc, no longer a stupid little woman who grow to be allowed to flee with too plenty for too long. She is a consequence of her upbringing - besides the shown fact that that's time for self-discipline to be placed into place and for her and her kinfolk to understand there are effects for behaviour which will nicely be uncomfortable for a whilst!