The myth that men make more than women put to bed?

Question

"Women who have never been married and are childless earn 117% of their childless male counterparts. Their decisions are more like married men's, while never-married men's decisions are more like women's generally. (Eg. careers in arts, on weekend work, etc.) Source Warren Farrell, New York Times September 5, 2005."

Well, there you have it, women make 117% more than men when both are unmarried and childless.

http://www.successtrategies.com/Facts/facts_index.htm

Let it out ladies, denial is the first step to recovery. My source is just that, a source. Feel free to post information countering my statements and information, at your leisure.

I look forward to the potential reading :)

btw Baba Yago, haven't they banned your hatespeech promoting butt yet? Makes me sad to think how many people no longer use Y!A because of you :(.

Answer 1

Your arguments are fallacious at best. This is a typical example of the tokenism at best and downright exaggeration at worst. They are picking a few very successful women and comparing them against the majority of men. These statistics are what is called skewed by those who present them and those who are obviously collecting and analysing.
Your source is a marketing ploy and quite laughable that you would even have the chutzpah to use this as a credible example.
Propaganda at the worst just a money making scheme that mysogist fall for.
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'NUFF said! Not a credible source no academic references.

Answer 2

Thank you for helping kill the myth but I doubt it will be put to bed indefinantly because feminists will always deny what you proove to them, otherwise they'll have nothing to fight about and will lose even more credibility than they already have.

@ Deirdre O:

You are well placed to say his arguments are fallacious Deirdre! Especially when you claim women have stronger lower bodies than men with NO SOURCES WHATSOEVER!!
To educate you:

Squat world record:
Men: 1074 lbs
Women: 514 lbs

Testosterone is one of the many hormones responsible for muscle development. The average male has 30-35% lower body strenght more than the average female. Even a weak man vs a strong woman would have equal or slightly stronger lower body. For upper body however the difference is greater: 40-50% stronger.

As soon as a male starts working out the percentages increase drastically as you can see by the squat world record.(a difference of over 100%)

You also claimed that some men are weak and could be beaten by women. Doesn't make sence to me that you can have weak men but not weak women, and I'm sure there is a higher % of weak women than weak men. This argument you use is also faulse as a weak man would still be stronger than a strong woman. Example: A VERY weak man may only have 20% stronger upper body (as opposed to 40-50%) and a strong woman would probably have 10% upper body strenght than other females. Conclusion: the weak man is still stronger than the woman.

Answer 3

"And FYI, according to that statistic, they're not making 117% MORE, like you said. They're making 117% OF what childfree men make, which means they're making 17% more."

That is SO funny! Because that's EXACTLY what the supposed "wage gap" measures! Total dollars EARNED by the ENTIRE male and female population!

WACKY!

If anybody on this board seriously believes that in this day and age a woman wouldn't get millions for discrimination in pay for similar education, work performed, and the like, he/she cannot be looking at the facts.

Oh, and Baba Yaga, your comparative education and the like fails against a NATIONAL review board:

"When women behave in the workplace as men do, the wage gap between them is small. June O'Neill, former director of the Congressional Budget Office, found that among people ages 27 to 33 who have never had a child, women's earnings approach 98 percent of men's."

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba392/

"Education is an investment which is rewarded - and rightfully so."

Do you really think most companies care about that anymore? They care a LOT more about experience than education; because of how widespread college degrees are nowadays and because of how the standards have lowered, a college degree doesn't generally guarantee squat.

Answer 4

I have always wondered if they normalized those figures to account for women being out of the workforce to raise children when they talk about a gender gap. Now i know they didn't.

Answer 5

Yeah, I knew that already. Marriage is bad for women - which is why we're brainwashed to believe we're worth nothing without a man - so that women will actually go out with you.

And FYI, according to that statistic, they're not making 117% MORE, like you said. They're making 117% OF what childfree men make, which means they're making 17% more.

And P.S. I hardly think this puts the "myth" to rest. Childfree, unmarried men and women who work can't constitute a huge majority of the population.

Answer 6

What does muscles have to do with the male sex hormone? it is responsible for sex drive. muscles is gained by working out. it has nothing to do with testosterone unless it's anabolic.

Answer 7

Go Girl Power! I've always thought a person should make what they're worth, independent of gender or race or personal lifestyle.

Answer 8

Pretty much yes but for those who want to play the victim card you cant win the dispute with arguments since they will feel free to ingore them.

Answer 9

So basically, children and husbands are the cause of all our problems!!!!! ;)

Answer 10

So what are they whining about, again?

I read that same statistic in Kate O'Beirne's "Women Who Make the World Worse."