Does the g0y movement repappropriate misinformation on sexuality?

Question

I found out about the g0y movement a couple years back after looking into activist Bill Weintraub's frot and homosex related pages. I thought the focus on a non-mainstream expression of same-sex attraction, the focus on respect, and the desire to promote healthy sexuality was great. However the focus on deriding those who differ from them in terms of masculinity is very disappointing and the us vs them mentality is a turn in the wrong direction. The aspects of creating a new ideology about the "ideal" man is also very disappointing and nothing new. How do you reconcile the radical statements espoused by g0y movement groups from more critical views of sexuality and behavior?

What I'm concerned about is that the movement itself is just another ideology that happens to center on homosexual relations. The idea of not having anal sex is great. The idea of creating an ideology around this is unnecessary. Ideologies are the biggest barrier to reason and logic so creating a new dogmatism will just create more misinformation.
You don't need to create a new mythology or utilize radical propaganda tactics to tell the truth. This is what is dissapointing about the whole g0y thing. They could've actually gone with reasonable arguments and pursued the promotion of public health but instead missed the boat and just created a new sect.
The whole mythology about greek homosex is a myth. They made some interesting stories out of it but the idea that Greeks did not have anal sex or that it was shunned by most homo/bi-sexual males is simply a fairy tale.

It certainly was a different culture where sexual relations were governed by class, status and age, but there were at the time (as there is now) differing and even contentious veiws about sexuality, one of which happened to be promoted by Plato. It's better to look at history realistically rather than turn it into a fairy-tale for self-agrandizement.
Then there is the whole farce about gender. If the authors were serious about a realistic view of the subject they would look at the body of scientific evidence on the subject. Gender is frequently a term used to refer to cultural and social customs of a specific time and place that construe what behavior is masculine/ feminine or appropriate of men or women. To an extent much of this is socially constructed. However there is also the category of sex - male/female - and sex characteristics.

It turns out that while men and women as a whole or on average share different sex characteristics, there is variation of sex characteristics accross the spectrum from male-typical to female-typical and this is in reference to specifically the biological expression of sex differentiation rather than learned cultural behavior. These sex characteristics are also blended into the terms masculine and feminine creating a delima as to the ambiguity of what is actually cultural/social and what is actually biological in terms of masculinity/femininity.
The gOy and frot definitions not only ignore sex variation they actually condemn it, and in doing so paint a broad brush where intersexed and androgenous individuals are labeled as disgusting. This is completely unneccesary and unrelated to public health concerns. In fact it probably just breeds new socially engineered neuroticisms.

At the same time they express all femininity as inferior and in so doing deride women and simply reinforce radical chauvinism. The fact that someone who is g0y may also frequently be bisexual highlights this significance. A woman is still an equal partner. Femininity does not mean inferiority or subserviance. This isn't a radical idea here but it seems to be overlooked by completely ignoring the status of women.

Here's a link to Bill Weintraub's own wiki-autobio. He was an early activist with the Gay Liberationist movement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bill_Weintraub

Answer 1

Yeah, I've seen that "g0y" movement and didn't like it at all. It seemed very aggressive and condescending.

Answer 2

"Is the finished liberal flow consistent with incorrect information and concern Mongering?" you're of direction concerning the Cheney marketing campaign of incorrect information and concern Mongering? Even Sarah might believe that.

Answer 3

I don't. From what I read about them it is little more than internalized homophobia and religious rationalizations used to justify homosexual acts by homophobic individuals.

Answer 4

Bill Weintraub is into frottage?? Who woulda thunk?

Oh, and who's Bill Weintraub?

Answer 5

Sex is what a person is physically, and gender is what they consider themself to be.


I haven't heard of the rest of the stuff you're talking about though.

Answer 6

When you learn to write and express your ideas in a concise manner I would be honored to answer your question, until then don't be so gOy!

Answer 7

g0y movement???

I didn't know non-Jews needed one.