I am a full time single parent and I work full time, so (although I wish I could) there is no way I can attend classes (even night classes would not fit into my schedule). I have an Associates degree, but I would love to be able to earn a Bachelors degree. University of Phoenix seems like a viable option for me. I'm just concerned about being turned down a job due to the degree not being held to the same regard as one from a traditional school. What do you all think?
2007-03-20 07:17:56 · 11 answers · asked by PrimeTime 2 in Education & Reference ➔ Higher Education (University +)
The school doesn't have real accreditation in the business world. It doesn't have AACSB Accreditation. What is AACSB? It is most prestigious accreditation that one can get in academia. Why spend money on a school that doesn't even have the proper accreditation? They don't even have real professors teaching their classes. You spend X amount of money and the school can't even get their educators to be of a doctorate level or terminally degreed to teach their classes. I would advise for you to look into your state/public universities and look for online programs that they are opening up. It is cheaper on avg according the the college board and they have REAL accreditation and have REAL professors teaching their classes.
I would recommend you reading this link
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/11/education/11phoenix.html?ex=1328850000&en=5c8573d57de4bffe&ei=5088
Here is a quote...
"According to federal statistics and government audits, the university relies more on part-time instructors than all but a few other postsecondary institutions, and its accelerated academic schedule races students through course work in about half the time of traditional universities. The university says that its graduation rate, using the federal standard, is 16 percent, which is among the nation’s lowest, according to Department of Education data. But the university has dozens of campuses, and at many, the rate is even lower."
and another quote
"The government measures graduation rates as the percentage of first-time undergraduates who obtain a degree within six years. On average across all American universities, the rate is 55 percent. Dr. Pepicello said this was a poor yardstick for comparing other universities with his, which serves mostly older students who started college elsewhere. Alongside the 16 percent rate, the university Web site also publishes a 59 percent graduation rate, but that is based on nonstandard calculations and does not allow comparison with other universities, he said. The official rates at some University of Phoenix campuses are extremely low — 6 percent at the Southern California campus, 4 percent among online students — and he acknowledged extraordinary attrition among younger students"
Another noteworthy quote...
"In 2003, two enrollment counselors in California filed a whistle-blower lawsuit in federal court accusing the university of paying them based on how many students they enrolled, a violation of a federal rule"
A university shouldn't be a for profit organization in my opinion... Education isn't a business.
2007-03-22 15:44:20 · answer #1 · answered by Zocalo 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Why bother with disreputable Phoenix when It is now possible to earn your degree through "distance education" from a completely reputable state university?
The links below are the absolute best you will find. They contain more links to many well-respected state university distance education programs through which you will certainly be able to complete your degree.
I would advise you to start by looking at your own state university system and check to see if they offer the programs and courses in which you are interested. If not, check out those of other states.(Pennsylvania and Maryland have great systems, for instance.) A degree from a state university will be recognized and respected as authentic by employers and academics everywhere.
2007-03-20 16:45:32 · answer #2 · answered by X 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
It depends on the PhD program. It is not that the mba is not valid it is that Phd programs have very specific admissions requirements. You could have probelems getting in with a masters from a traditional university too! I say print out the courses included in the MBA and compare them to the requirements in the Phd program you are looking at. Even better, contact someone on the campus and ask them what you can do to assure admission.
2016-03-29 08:42:37 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Definitely not.
For a revealing look at U of P check the article in the New York Times for Sunday Feb 11, 2007.
You'll be glad you did!!!
Go for a degree at your local state univ. It may take longer, but in the end, you will have a degree that everyone will respect, and you will have a real education, not just an empty piece of paper....
2007-03-20 07:22:00 · answer #4 · answered by matt 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Unfortunately, it is not going to be held in the same regard at all. Online University's are usually sort of laughed at in the professional world. Much of your education comes from direct contact with professors, students and advisors, and an undergraduate degree from a "real" university is much different that any online program. I've even heard of credits being denied when one class is taken online. It's just not realistic. I work in the psychological field and I know that we will not hire anyone with an online degree in any subject.
The other thing to look at is accreditation. Rarely (very, very rarely) are these programs accredited. And that's what is important. Most job descriptions say (a bachelor's degree from an ACCREDITED university or school is required) - the odds of you getting an accredited degree from an online or distance learning program are slim to none. I don't know of any program that is accredited - that's where you're going to run into problems. I'd think it'd be a waste of your money and time.
2007-03-20 07:27:26 · answer #5 · answered by jennifer 2 · 3⤊ 5⤋
I personally have gotten good feedback on my degree. I got my master's degree from UoP. I am the director of finance at a successful manufacturing facility, and they were only looking for either a CPA or someone with a masters in Finance. Out of 65 applicants I was hired, and am being paid above the average salary of someone in a position like mine for the area I am in.
I think it is different, being online......but you have to work for the degree, don't let anyone fool you. I worked hard for mine, and am seeing that I am reaping the benefits of getting the degree by the professional success I have had.
I don't know what the Times has said about UoP or what other people think about an online degree that have answered before me, but I would recommend it to anyone who is willing to put in the effort and time to get a degree while still working full time.
EDIT: UoP is an ACCREDITED online university
2007-03-20 07:31:37 · answer #6 · answered by Just Me 6 · 2⤊ 5⤋
Sorry...any degree/diploma/certificate from the "University" of Phoenix is pretty much worthless. Ask any HR person in any company and they will tell you that as soon as they see "University of Phoenix" on a resume...it goes to the bottom of the pile....never to be seen again.
2007-03-20 07:41:15 · answer #7 · answered by levatorlux 5 · 5⤊ 3⤋
I don't think it is held in the same regard, but it is better than nothing., .
2007-03-20 07:20:57 · answer #8 · answered by courage78 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Hey! you know what, its not where you get your education it's how you use and apply it....sell what you are capable of and be confident in yourself. Trust me in what I say, 90% of what you will know and accomplish will be learned in your career.
2007-03-20 07:36:37 · answer #9 · answered by tom2day 2 · 3⤊ 4⤋
it's not bad but not as credible as a real school
2007-03-20 07:22:16 · answer #10 · answered by Bailey 5 · 0⤊ 3⤋