If you found your head of dept unnapraochable and ws told by them not to go "running to HR" if you had a prob, that you had to speak to her? ALso, what if she "sdvised" you not to make a formal complaint about someone who you work with who hasnt been pulling their weight and left the job s of 2 people up to you?
2007-03-20 05:20:52 · 11 answers · asked by brunelscooby 4 in Business & Finance ➔ Careers & Employment
gotta go to HR, and they have to file a complaint. Otherwise there is nothing that can be done.
And even IF you decide to leave, you're doing them a favor by filing a complaint anyway. easier to get rid of the.m
2007-03-20 05:29:35 · answer #1 · answered by Wiseyngsoul 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I work in HR and take this sort of complaint very seriously. There is a manager where I work that I have to keep a quiet eye on because he has been heard to say the same thing.
Go to HR and tell them but only if you have an issue. Managers can feel that it reflects poorly on them when HR get involved but it is not and should not be seen as such. But equally, it has been known that managers keep things away from HR because they are hiding something.
I recommend you o to HR, but you do what you feel is right in the circumstances.
Good Luck!
2007-03-20 06:05:31 · answer #2 · answered by hmrhmr1717 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What's this woman's clout? Is there anyone above her or could she take you down pretty easy? If you think she's got a lot of influence above her and that you couldn't make a strong case (not circumstantial or verbal) to her direct boss than I'd leave the company. HR will not be able to do anything, and will likely speak to her and you'll just get punished and then she'll know not to trust you and will say bad things to the people she reports you therefore cutting off all your outlets to speak about this. Might be time to move on!
2007-03-20 05:31:03 · answer #3 · answered by JM 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Hello,
(ANS) These kinds of situations are by there nature extremely difficult to deal with but in my personal opinion you have to ask yourself. Given the nature of the company or oganisation and the type of culture they have, will they ALL just close ranks on you, denie whats really going on here? which seems extremely likely too IMO.
Often in these kinds of situations its hard if your up against a more senior member of staff, especially a very experienced player of the political games that can & do go on in companies & as they probably hold alot of power, are well connected and can & will pull rank on you.
**Your evidence needs to be very good quality, or undeniable, you have to find some sort of proof that the other person isnt approachable or is slacking in their job (that could be hard to prove as most managers delegate tasks to junior staff, so this could be seen as normal??).
**Its already obvious that the HR manager is advising you NOT to rock the boat on this. But that could be because she knows & understands how the company politics works and knows its futile or it could be that she (the HR manager) is in collusion with the overall company politics i.e. she's a player of the same game as the person you wish to complain about.
**Others might see your formal complaint as just a clash of personalities?
**Or that your not a suitable member of staff to continue working in that role.
**I think there are a couple of basic choices :-
a) Put up & shut up and turn a blind eye!! say nothing do nothing.
b) Make a formal complaint but by pass the HR manager too do so.
c) If you cannot take the heat get out of the kitchen!! Leave.
**Trouble is if you make a formal complaint you could be sacked or fired if they close ranks on you?
**Working life can be extremely unfair!! people dump alsorts of rubbish on each other from great heights. Its happend to me several times and hurts alot when you've worked hard for a company and they fire you without good reason. i.e. total betrayed.
**Be careful some employers are utterly ruthless & wont think twice in sacking you if you were to complain about good old jerry!! no matter how much he's dragging his sack!! If good old jerry is part of the old boys network you probably dont stand a chance but its hard to know until the hot brown stuff hits the fan!! as it were.
**be careful here to that your NOT being set-up to be a scapegoat for somene else's game of power & company politics.
**Its a tough one for sure, no easy answers sorry!!
Best Regards IR
2007-03-20 06:01:20 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
HI
The best thing to do is be honest with your boss about how you feel, but remember the trick is not to criticise her as a person, or the other person, just the actions of the person, why it upsets you, and have clear evidence ready to back up your grievances.
Your boss will not want HR involved, and she'll want to get this sorted herself if at all possible. So show her that you are willing to work with her solutions, but in the mean time you are finding it very difficult to 'carry' the other person for much longer.
Good luck with it
2007-03-20 05:30:55 · answer #5 · answered by Christine 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Start looking for another job.
I'll bet there are a lot of companies out there who are looking for good people right now!
No sense in working for a company that doesn't appreciate you.
2007-03-20 05:30:05 · answer #6 · answered by JV 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I'd go to HR, that's what they are there for. She sounds like a right pain in the ***** what she frightend of. Do it tomorrow first thing. Good luck.
2007-03-20 05:28:02 · answer #7 · answered by Sugarlump 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Very very difficult. I have a friend in just this situation. It's grinding her into the ground. If you're young enough, start looking for another job.
2007-03-20 05:25:07 · answer #8 · answered by jet-set 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
you have every right to make a formal complaint.if your deputy/manager is not approachable go above them.are you in a union? it may be wise to join one.some companies are just out to screw you over!
2007-03-20 05:32:59 · answer #9 · answered by izzydeniro 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
go running to you hr and start looking for another job...good luck!
2007-03-20 05:29:22 · answer #10 · answered by Babe 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋