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What if the universe and the earth and the beings on it actually were created and not evolved. How would current science ever figure it out if it starts with the premise that all things 'just happened' and there is no designer.
How could they ever figure it out?

2007-03-20 02:53:05 · 12 answers · asked by kent j 3 in Science & Mathematics Astronomy & Space

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When I create something, I often sign my name to it. It has the look and feel of something designed.

Now, it would have been trivially easy for a Creator to sign the universe, or at least our world. For example, suppose the universe was created 6000 years ago. We should then see no stars more than 6000 light years away. The Creator could still have created all the other galaxies and stars--and we would only see new ones as their light crossed the 6000 light year creation boundary.

Not only can we see stars much farther away than 6000 light yeras, we see information encoded in those trails of light of events that occurred much longer ago than that--for example, supernova starlight in distant galaxies.

If I designed the solar system, earth would have a little less inclination, making the seasons less extreme. And the year would be something clever, like 100 pi (314.1593) days long, instead of 365.2422 sidereal days. What gives with that?

The length of the day is about right, but then we have evolved to become used to a 24 hour cycle. But I'd have the earth closer in to shorten the year. And the sun would be a red dwarf instead of an average sized yellow star. Easier on the eyes, and it would last so much longer.

Now, the evidence does not rule out a Creator. But it is clear that if there IS a Creator, the Creator chose to create using naturalistic means.

Science does not rule out creation, it simply gains nothing by postulating it. When I conduct an experiment in chemistry and my result is unexpected, I do not blame Divine Intervention. Instead I look for a natural explanation. Contamination, or error in measurement, or some other effect. If I noted in my journal "and here God performed a non repeatble miracle..." I would expect to be laughed out of the laboratory.

So when we can test for the existence of God, God becomes a part of our science. Until then, we leave God to the theologians.

2007-03-20 05:10:07 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is simply a matter of investigating, looking closely, taking apart, changing the light or the angle of view. Saying things "just happened" is not saying we can't figure things out, it's just saying we can't assume there was a supernatural cause for the universe. We observe and experiment to find connections and design an explanation that stands up to further observation and experiment. False premises might be developed and even endure for a long time before being disproved, but the goal is always to better understand how the universe did and does work. To say some mysterious "designer" created the universe is not scientific, it is giving up and refusing to learn. There may indeed be such a being, but without direct evidence, to conclude so is an unverifiable assumption. Meanwhile, we have not nearly exhausted our avenues of exploration and continue to make connections to determine, correctly, just how (not why) the universe developed.

2007-03-20 12:15:19 · answer #2 · answered by skepsis 7 · 0 0

Science isn't supposed to figure it out. Science is supposed to study, hypothesize and model.

Stephen Hawking is quoted as saying that we could have a complete model of the entire universe, that explained every phenomena and it still could be wrong.

The "designer" could have designed in all of the side roads and red herrings and scientists would have to run them all down one at a time essentially forever.

Science doesn't get you closer to the "designer"; faith does. If you do have faith though, you have to be pretty impressed with the "designer"!

2007-03-20 10:07:16 · answer #3 · answered by Ernie 4 · 0 0

It would definetely take some time. I think even if they figured it out that someone godly really created this universe, I think the science people will never tell us. Why? They would probably make a fool out of themselves and people would probably make fun of them about their big bang bullshit. Plus, who would want to re write all the science books just for this reason. Think about it.

2007-03-20 10:04:02 · answer #4 · answered by j0shy 1 · 0 0

I know that it probably wasn't instantaneous, and probably was a long time ago, but a power created the universe. An intelligent power, with subtle clues to it's existence.

I have faith.

I have seen the universe unfold infront of me, taking wrong turns, and correcting itself. There are signs given to us everywhere, everyday - that many do not see due to lack of attention.

Something is talking to us. We should at least try to listen.

2007-03-20 10:03:41 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Scientists don't "start out" with those assumptions. It's simply that the question of God's existance is not one that science is equipped to answer, one way or another.

And note I said "God." I wish you creationists would at least be honest instead of pretending you aren't advancing a religious doctrine--and one that isn't shared by most Christians, anyway.

2007-03-20 14:35:58 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Science is based on experiment. We can never figure out all these things.

2007-03-20 09:56:51 · answer #7 · answered by sexy-star 4 · 2 0

Evolution does not disprove Creation. Creation and evolution can be one in the same depending on how you look at it. When people say Creation, that think of a puff of smoke and magic. Some times, Creation takes time.

2007-03-20 10:04:00 · answer #8 · answered by ThePerfectStranger 6 · 0 0

That would assume that some supernatural process outside the laws of science took place. There would be no way to definitively prove it.

2007-03-20 09:56:43 · answer #9 · answered by Gene 7 · 2 1

if you are having a problem believing if god really exist con cider this think of anything you can think of and research it how it is made then think their are millions of other things in this world' and we cant even cure the common cold you add it up

2007-03-20 10:11:16 · answer #10 · answered by Linda K 1 · 0 0

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