Ever notice that? You get the same tired old answers from the "tolerant" crowd - - oh, it's just a few radical extremists, it's not mainstream Islam.... Right, well what IS mainstream Islam - - is it Muhammad's life? Is it the Koran? The Hadiths?
Well in case you didn't know, Muhammad killed tens of thousands of people - - his successors wiped out entire populations from the map. You know why there are almost no Buddhists left in India, where Buddhism was founded? Because the Muslims KILLED THEM ALL.
The Koran says to kill the unbelievers. Not once, repeatedly. Not God will do it in the end days, but YOU do it, and God likes you more if you do it than if you sit at home and just pray five times a day. It says when, where, why and how to do it.
Does that mean peaceful, moderate Islam is impossible?
NO.
It DOES mean that some reconciliation must be made between it and origins that are extremely violent.
2007-03-19 13:02:14 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
OK this is what I'm talking about - you just can't equate the Bible with the Koran on its face, and still Jewish and Christian leaders HAVE gotten up and said YES there is violence in it and we don't espouse it for the modern world.
And there's the little problem with the fact that Jesus didn't kill ANYONE - far cry from killing tens of thousands of people.
Is Moderate Islam an impossibility? No - I would welcome it.
But we don't have Moderate Islam now.
We have terrorist Islam and "in denial" Islam.
2007-03-19 13:10:26 · update #1
Kill the unbelievers wherever ye may find them? That ring a bell? Cut off their heads and every fingertip of them?
No?
OK this is what I mean by "in denial" - something that says God wants you to cut people's heads and fingertips off IS NOT PEACEFUL!!!!
2007-03-20 03:15:56 · update #2
Remember in the 7th century Islam expanded from Saudi Arabia from Spain to China. Islam is a religion of conquest.
Christianity did not have that kind of conquest until God was used as an expansion excuse. And Judaism only had the conquest of their chosen homeland.
Muhammad's instructions were to convert men of the book. (Bible) Kill the rest. If men of the book will not convert, they too must be killed.
2007-03-19 13:11:05 · answer #1 · answered by kittenbrower 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I have a Muslim friend. He loaned me his copy of the Qur'an and several books as I truly wanted to know what seperates us. His contention and I suppose that of his Imam is that when Islam speaks of infidels or unbelievers they speak of those who do not believe in God. They see the God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam as the same god with different prophets. In fact Islam is really a hyperviolent very dictatorial offshoot of Judaism, just as Christianity is an offshoot. I take that at face value and still come to the realization that their religion does endorse killing people who do not believe. That would include me as I don't believe in any man-created god. So in the end the religion my friend follows tells him to kill me. Now there are some Muslims that translate that as an order to kill all that don't worship Allah, that is what we label Islamofacist.
Islam is not a "peaceful" religion, if any truly are, it in fact promotes the murder of a certain group of people. Either those that don't prescribe to the the faith of the "big 3" religions or for some all those that don't follow Allah.
What I find humorous is those that tend to defend Islam as peaceful usually are those that find fault with Christianity and Judaism but are not Muslim. These are the same people that the Qur'an explicitely instructs Muslims, not just the extremists but all, to murder. Its the Buddhist and the Scientologist and the Athiest that ALL Muslims are told to kill.
2007-03-19 13:43:19 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Funny, I've read it all the way through. And I have no clue what translation you have been reading.
The history is violent yes, but a lot of that has to do with (un)Christian oppression. Christian Aggression that's still present.
The Koran Does say to destroy the Unbelievers, but it's refers to converting them, not killing. Odds are that those passages have been mistranslated.
Mainstream Islam is very peaceful, not violent at all. many people misunderstand things and cherry pick Koran passages that they learned from right wing blogs to support their points. I can pull out bible passages that support stoning people, put a ton of them together, and call it mainstream. Is it? No, but if it supported people's preconceived notions then people would think it was true.
Which seems to be the case here.
2007-03-19 13:11:05 · answer #3 · answered by The Big Box 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I haven't read either the Koran or Hadiths & I have problems with Islam. Reading those texts gives you theory, not reality. Reality is that current main stream Islam supports Jihad against all non Muslins.
2007-03-19 13:45:15 · answer #4 · answered by yupchagee 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You dont know any thing about islam and if you really tried to know islam really instead of saying anything that u dont even know . If muslims really thought the way you are thinking then they will say that americans are terroists cos Bush is going killing every body in the world in the name of Freedom
,Go and know islam good and you will never say that
2007-03-19 13:21:56 · answer #5 · answered by The DEVIL 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Because we think, read, and reason instead of reacting like a psychotic to situations that challenge our beliefs.
2007-03-19 13:12:26 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
it all pales in comparison to the lives lost in the name of Christianity and god.. remember that little thing called the inquisition
2007-03-19 13:12:13 · answer #7 · answered by Unfrozen Caveman 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Sometimes I feel as though the far right is working on another crusade.
2007-03-19 13:15:53 · answer #8 · answered by smedrik 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
i fail to see a real question,but religious text are often violent.
2007-03-19 13:08:01 · answer #9 · answered by here to help 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋