Can the people who insist that Islam owes no explanation...?

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..and that the terrorists are just a radical fringe with no philosophical ties to the true source of the religion please do me one favor:

READ the Koran and the Hadiths..... OK? PLEASE.

Muhammad killed TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE to spread his religion. He raided villages, killed the men, kept the attractive women, sold the other women off into slavery, kept the children and converted them to Islam. He did this over and over and over again and this is how the arab peninsula, northern India and almost everything in between came to become "the Muslim world." This is why there are almost no Buddhists left in India - - the Muslims KILLED THEM ALL.

The Koran is cover to cover violence - it says to kill unbelievers, it says when, where, why and how to kill us.

You make it sound like Muhammad was and the Koran is peaceful and the terrorists are just making it up as they go along.

Peaceful Islam is possible but it must reconcile with its violent source.

Look, I don't mean to insult anyone or anyone's culture, but most movements, religious or otherwise, with a violent past, even if the violence doesn't stem to the source, the leaders of those movements have gotten up and reconciled, openly RECOGNIZED the violence in their source and REJECTED it, and reinterpreted the movement's mission for the modern era.

The Church, not that I don't still have issues with it, but it has SAID that the Crusades were wrong, that the Inquisition was wrong.

But Islamic terrorists now kill more people EVERY year than were killed in the entire 350 years of the Inquisition.

This is because the terrorist leaders can legitimately lay claim to Muhammad's example and to the Koran.

This will be the case ONLY until Moderate Muslim leaders STAND UP and not only denounce a few of the worst attacks but RECONCILE WITH THE VIOLENCE IN THE SOURCE OF THEIR RELIGION, the way most other respected religions have done.

Jewish and Christian books are NOT worse. They "contain" violence but it's not cover to cover like it is in the Koran, it's not nearly as graphic, for the most part God does his own wet work whereas the Koran tells YOU to kill, and Jesus' personal example involved no violence, unless you count overturning the money tables - not exactly beheading and selling people into slavery...

And yet despite all this most branches of Judaism and Christianity HAVE gone through this reconciliation process for which I ask. They DID stand up and say "yes, the Bible says some bad things, and we don't accept them, we choose to interpret them differently for the modern day."

How hard is it? If you're about peace then it shouldn't be hard at all to distinguish yourself from someone who murdered tens thousands of people, whose successors committed abject genocide, from text that says to do just that.

Don't say "it never meant that" when those who wrote it DID it!

But please, listen folks, I truly want to have this reconciliation. I truly, in my heart, would rather "we all just get along" then to still fight - - - but I think the onus is on those who hold up violent people and writings as exemplars to draw the distinction, to reject the violence INHERENT in those examples and to re-interpret those examples publicly.

I think it's their obligation to do this - at least I think that if they don't do it, the violence will never stop.

But I do think it can be done and I'd rather it be done than not done. I would rather have peace with them than be at war.

By the way she was six.

Nine when they, you know...

The thing is, the Koran is a LOT more violent than the Bible but EVEN SO, most branches of Christianity HAVE gotten up and ACKNOWLEDGED the violence inherent in their religion's roots and OVERTLY PUT IT IN A NON-LITERAL CONTEXT.

"Moderate" Islam has not done this.

All we get is "it doesn't really say that."

It DOES say that.

If you want the critics and the terrorists to not think it MEANS that then you have to acknowledge that it says it and then say it shouldn't mean what it says.

Answer 1

Islam is a sham, and Allah was the sun god of Mecca...one of many they worshipped. Over time, Allah became their main god. I'm very serious.

Muhammad killed several people, and had several wives...including children.

Islam isn't peace....just read the qu'ran.

Answer 2

I agree with you. The Koran is a violent book. But the Bible is just as violent. I think the Islamic fundamentalists are the counter to the Christian Fundamentalists. Only difference - The Islamic Fundamentalists explode from time to time.

Answer 3

I disagree on your final statement. To rid Islam of advocacy of violence against the infidel would be to gut Islam entirely.

Islam, itself, must be destroyed before the cancer of Islam encompasses the entire world.

Answer 4

MUHAMMAD TOOK AN 11 YEAR OLD BRIDE HE WAS A PERVERT. THE ISLAMIC RELIGION IS AN ATROCITY. THEY CLAIM TO BE PEACEFUL BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAJOR CONFLICTS TODAY THE VAST MAJORITY INVOLVE THE SO CALLED PEACEFUL RELIGION. THEY ARE NOTHING BUT FANATICAL MURDERERS.

Answer 5

Muslims:

-blow up planes
-shoot civilians
-behead soldiers on camera
-bomb innocent civilians

Answer 6

Jewish and Christian Books are worse.

Answer 7

I am with you buddy!!