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Have you ever thought that this life might be just as futile and useless as it seems and that they toil and effort we put into it may as well be replaced by days constant sloth and lethargy. Futher having contemplated that, has anyone ever really decided to say to hell with it all and start over in a small town or maybe a commune someplace under the name Robert Montgomery Knight Jr? Anybody?

2007-03-19 08:59:12 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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In the absolute long run, you are probably right. But what else have we got to do? Might as well find some way to stick to the man. After all, we gotta eat.

2007-03-19 09:07:36 · answer #1 · answered by Sophist 7 · 1 0

This describes a lot of what is underlying a Fatalist point of view.

Generally, if an event can be preconcieved, then a series of like events can also be preconcieved, giving to a "time line", or a preconcieved series of events.

Example:

If I let go of this ball, it will fall.

If this ball falls, it will hit the floor.

If this ball hits the floor, it will roll.

If it rolls, it will follow the path of the floor and end up in the corner.

If it ends up in the corner, someone will find it and put it away.

These five events have been preconcieved. They are either correct or incorrect, but if you can deduce that a scenario is incorrect, then it can also be deduced what the correct scenario must be.

Therefore, there can be an infinite number of timelines, each consisting of a set of preconceived scenarios which also can be either right or wrong. Therefore, there can be said to be ONE timeline that can be preconcieved, if done in enough detail, and scrutinized until each piece of it has been deemed accurate or correct.

This timeline, will then predict ALL of existence.

If there exists a timeline that can predict ALL of existence, then nothing anyone does will alter it.

If that is the case, then all actions are inherently MEANINGLESS except to ultimately bring about a timeline which already exists.

In that case -- Hey, nothing anyone does matters. Also, you're thinking about this all wrong. Did you ever see "The Butterfly Effect" (I know, it's not that good of a movie, but it illustrates the point well enough) or "It's A Wonderful Life"? - In both of those movies, the point is that the consequences of actions go beyond our own perception.

Also, the logic Fatalists use is faulty.
If you change something about that ALL-INCLUSIVE timeline, all it does is make some other timeline correct. It doesn't make the end result of your actions meaningless. This just means that the ALL-INCLUSIVE timeline is constantly switching from timeline to timeline.

But hey, who knows what you'll change by going to another city or small town and becoming Robert Montgomery Knight Jr?

2007-03-19 09:32:55 · answer #2 · answered by prof. hambone 3 · 0 1

This is a good question, and I question that I think should be pondered by more people in our world. I do agree with the time line statement to a degree. If there is an all inclusive time line, which physically is a plausibility, then you do in fact have a choice. More importantly, the choices you make affect which strand of the all-inclusive time line is followed. Moreover, it can then be understood that each choice affects the outcome of the future by continuing down one particular strand of time as opposed to the other. This would mean that by living our choices, even though we are in the framework of and all-inclusive time line, we have a just amount of freedom in affecting the outcome of the future. If this is so, then life itself is not futile or meaningless. The question then becomes, what is the purpose of life if it is not just to live? The answer to that depends on the person. The more hopeful of us would say that the meaning of life is to love, and, in turn, continue to create and improve human existence. Further the bounds of our reach, and improve the human condition both mentally and physically. The more pessimistic of us would say that life is about yourself, and not the group. This philosophy entails that people are incapable of becoming a higher order species and that the purpose of your existence is to service yourself and not a greater cause or good. This ideology and train of thought often spawns the futility ideology. My opinion on all of this is that life is as meaningful or futile as you want it to be. Personally, I believe in creating a better world and living my life to do so, as well as encouraging others to find truth in the fact that a dedication to something greater than the sum of it's parts can in fact bring peaceful and fulfilling lives. That it is possible for man to become a higher order species and that life is not meaningless unless we as individuals let it become such.

2007-03-19 10:10:19 · answer #3 · answered by Creel O 1 · 0 0

lol well I was really upset in the small town I was from, there was nothing to do and it was really slow paced. I JUST moved to an apartment Cleveland yesterday, sadly I didn't change my name but now that I think about it Robert Montgomery Knight Jr is the perfect name for me. lol

2007-03-19 09:13:46 · answer #4 · answered by Gretchen M 2 · 1 0

I often sit down and contemplate starting fresh. I've also often said "To hell with it all" after giving up. Every time, I consider runing away from home and creating a new life for myself. Maybe starting again in California, or NY, where I've always wanted to live. I also sometimes wish I could just end it all, and commit suicide, and just give up. It seems so much easier then continuing on with this shallow, meaningless thing I call my life.

2007-03-19 09:09:18 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

It occurs to most people (except for religious zealots) that our lives may be futile, our efforts in vain. But somehow, we are programmed to strive for meaning, because without it, we'd let ourselves die, not move to a small town and take another name and take it easy. That would not suffice. Life strives to maintain itself and to find fun in its living. We go wrong by confusing ambition with fun.

2007-03-19 09:51:34 · answer #6 · answered by browneyedgirl 6 · 1 0

Its a psychological concern some people call it "Truman tutor-ism" or some thing like that because of the fact of that action picture. many people think of that for the time of a few unspecified time interior the destiny and that's what the action picture became consistent with.

2016-10-01 04:43:23 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I think every human has moments of thinking of starting over.
The problem with starting over is that no matter where you go, there you are. We can't escape our selves. We do have the choice to seperate from toxic people or toxic situations.

Actually, each morning we each start over. It is up to us to take advantage to the fresh starts that each day brings us.

2007-03-19 10:51:25 · answer #8 · answered by clcalifornia 7 · 0 0

Don't be so negative. Everything you do affects something else, and then comes back to you. What you do to affect things in a positive or negative way is up to you. So you see, there is a purpose to you.

2007-03-19 10:04:59 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The true meaning of life is the sure knowledge of death, for without it, man would not strive to leave his mark on the world.

2007-03-19 09:05:56 · answer #10 · answered by kj 7 · 1 1

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