ATTENTION MODERATE MUSLIMS: How many bad apples spoil the barrel?

Question

At what point is "don't blame us, it's just a radical fringe minority, I don't know where they get their ideas" not a good enough answer?

Like or dislike the website below but the attacks it describes DID happen and the people who committed them did it for Allah.

Does this bother you?

The people who are committing these assaults not only take Allah's name but they can point to his example and they can point to the Koran and Hadiths to justify their actions.

So far most of the "moderate Muslim" response has been a rather quiet "we do not like violence or stand for violence," and then a denial of any tie, philosophically or otherwise, to violence - isn't it time to say "yes, Muhammad was violent, yes, the Koran and Hadiths are violent as written, and we need to reinterpret them for modern society?"

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islam_in_Action.Islam

If you'd just DO that I would work this hard to support you.

And when did I say I liked Ann Coulter? I've never read any of her books, I don't know anything about her. I don't even consider myself "Christian" - nothing against Jesus personally but no organized religion that claims his name really makes sense to me.

Why is it unreasonable to speak out about violence?

Look remember when people were bombing abortion clinics - the Church said "this isn't us, we condemn these clinic bombings."

Imagine if it was six or eight bombings a WEEK and the Church had said NOTHING.

Wouldn't you be asking the same questions I'm asking here?

If ANY Muslim leader would just CLEARLY SPEAK OUT and say "yes, Muhammad was violent and this isn't the example, rather we stick with what he said about spirituality and fasting and praying and we consider the violence more of a historical anecdote" and I will be on YA a few days a week saying "isn't Islamic leader so and so a great person?"

That's all I ask.

Why is that unreasonable?

Answer 1

It would be great if American Muslims did speak out against beheadings, bombings, etc. but then to do that they would have to be AGAINST them. So far they have not done much more than complain about being singled out for attention and being mistaken for terrorists. So, stand out from terrorists and stand up for your country if this is your country. There are great Middle Eastern families in the US and they are poorly served by clerics who wish to sit on the hands and moan about being discrminated against. Stand and be counted. Japanese people did, German people did, Vietnamse and Loation people live here because they did too. So where are you?

Answer 2

Political realists see that Muslim “moderates” are more patient than Muslim extremists. The “moderates” merely prefer a phased strategy for Israel’s demise. This makes Mahmoud Abbas a “moderate” and Ismail Haniyeh an “extremist.”

The litmus test of a Muslim moderate is this: Does he or she publicly avow the legitimacy of the Jewish State of Israel? And does he or she publicly reject the Arab “right of return”—which is but a code word for Israel’s destruction? You will not find a politically or strategically significant number of such Muslims.

All the talk about Muslim “moderates” is little more than escapism and obscurantism. Terrorism is coextensive with Islam: in Iraq and Iran, in Syria and Lebanon, in Algeria and the Sudan, in Chechenya and Indonesia.

Meanwhile, in mosques across the United States, imams preach hatred of Christian and Jews; some even call for Jihad.


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Answer 3

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Answer 4

I too have wondered this question. I, however, fear a war is going to happen, not the one that many people think, but a Muslim civil war. It will be bloody, violent and shake its followers to the core.

Answer 5

Fear and agreement.

Fear - They are afraid of backlash from these people (i.e., they don't want to incur the wrath of the crazies). Muslims are just as cruel with their own people as they are with "infidels".

Agreement - They believe the same things (i.e. death to Jews and Christians, destroy the US etc.), but they go about it in different, more subtle ways.

Answer 6

Funny how this kind of thing always comes from Republicans who think Ann Coulter is God's gift to the world.

At what point does THAT bad apple spoil the barrel?

Answer 7

the same amount of christian bad apples that spoil the barrel, like the IRA and Eric Rudolph and that crazy Falwell character! they (christian extremists) bother me just as much as narrow minded muslim extremists

Answer 8

Pretty much all Religion is silly

Answer 9

Not as many as the GOP

Answer 10

i dont know...how many?