If you know someone is hired at your company w/ same position w/ higer salary do you use it in annual review?

Question

I referred a friend over to my current employer. He actually holds a lower title but does the same exact jopb at another office. He came in with a salary 9% higher then myself. since he is a friend I know his salary. So is there anyway I can use this knowledge to secure a higher salary without communication that I know confidential information? Would I dare even say I know someone in another office with a lower title earning more? That is probably out of line. So how can I secure more for myself?

Answer 1

Robert,

You have probably been at your company for a long time. While you have stability, you don't make any money that way.

You friend came in and wanted a certain salary. That's what he got. Companies don't give current employees the same luxury.

I am a job hopper. I change jobs in 1-3 years, going to different companies in my profession. Between 2004 and 2007, I have increased my salary by over $20,000 by doing this.

If you bring up an increase during your review, they will start talking about salary ranges and other HR BS.

Answer 2

Hi, I'm a recruiter. No, you shouldn't use it and here's why. You were hired before him and each year starting salaries usually go up. You also don't know what the budget situation is/was like at your office when you were hired or what the difference is. You certainly don't like it, but it's not necessarily just unfair. You also assume he has a lower title. Did he come with a degree and you didn't, or did he come in with more job experience. Salaries are variable by what you can offer as well. To ask for a raise for yourself, you will have to find a way to either take on more responsibility or highlight something you've made part of your job description that wasn't there before. The only way to get money out of most corporations these days is to do more. Good luck.

Answer 3

You need to justify your higher pay based on your performance, not the fact that your friend is paid more. Did he have more experience or education coming in? That might be why he is paid more. Also, if you have been with the company a while often your pay will not keep up with the market rate but they will have to offer that to employ a new person. Go to your boss. Tell them you've done some research on what you are worth in the market and that an x% raise would put you in the range of your market worth. Then, justify this raise by listing all of the things you have done for the company that have helped the bottom line, projects you've successfully taken on, or any additional training or education you have obtained since working there. You need to get a raise on your own merits, not on your friend's merits.

Answer 4

If you are too specific, you'll put a target on your friend's back. What you can say is that you've done some research and people who are doing the same work receive an average of x% more than you do.

Salary.com is one source you can check; many local papers and chamber of commerce documents also publish wage averages for the surrounding communities as well. Go in armed with information beyond just your friend's salary, and ask for that well-deserved raise!

Answer 5

I would not use it, most companies have a strick policy of not discussing pay, and if so it can lead to termination. I am an employment recruiter and we have to tell potential canidates pay is a confindential matter only to be discusses between the employee and the manager. The one thing you can try is to mention that a study of pay rates in this area for my postion is higher then I am earning at this point. But again that may be pushing it as well. Good Luck.

Answer 6

Bad idea. The performance evaluation is based entirely on how well you did, not how well someone else did. Yes he came over at a higher salary, that is his benefit and to his credit for negioating that salary and has no reflection on you and your job performance.

Does he do a worse job than you? If so, do you really want to tie your performance to his? Does he do a better job than you? If so, do you want to be compared to him in YOUR performance? Do you want a raise only to his level?

If you want to secure more for yourself, go in with a clear understanding of your performance, and how well you met your tasks/goals. Getting more $ will likely depend on their evaluation of how well you did, and if you are up to meeting more work in in the future. So, ask for more responsiblities. Ask what it takes to be prompoted to a higher position. Establish yourself as someone the company can't live without, rather than someone who should be compared to a co-worker.

Answer 7

Careful, I would review the company policy becuase you may get your friend in trouble for disclosing his salary to you or yourself in trouble for spreading confidential information.
Are you certain your friend's salary is not based on certain benefits he may have declined, or a higher education level attained? If either of these are the case then your argument can be nullified.

Answer 8

You just have to work on getting an increase yourself on your own merits. Often salaries can differ depending on hiring concerns and such.

If you even allude to what you know in anyway odds are you are going to screw yourself. But bear in mind that since your friend came in making more when he gets his review he might get a smaller increase than you...... bringing your salaries more in line. Wait and see what you get without saying anything is the best course.

Answer 9

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Answer 10

Why not? you have the information, use it...