Further and last to my child getting 10 day exclusion?

Question

With regards to all the teachers who feel that a disruptive child should not be taught.....

Ask yourself this do you do a vocation?

Does a nurse do a vocation?

What if a nurse turned around and said that she/he would not help someone who self harmed?

Should a teacher be able to turnaround and say they will not teach someone who dosn't want to be teached?

Sorry...Do you have a vocation?...been a long day.....

PS Just one final thing I have used up my questions limit for today...I will be posting a rather long 'further to my childs exclusion' tomorrow which i believe will silence a lot of very critical people out there....We shall see....

Answer 1

As i have said teachers are there to teach and to all these people who say it is the parents job only shut up teachers teach maths English etc but a school also prepares the child for the future which includes teaching the child how to behave it is the closet a child will get to rules in a work place before he is in a work environment perhaps if teachers actually took the time to find out why the child is misbehaving rather then just sending them home schools will go alot further.

As for all the people saying it is all the parents fault do you have kids I can honestly say hand on heart my parents taught me politeness and respect i chose not to respect people who called me thick and just took the easy option all the time.

If some teachers are honest they don t care about individuals any more and just want to meet targets this needs to stop some kids need more help and that is why they are little sods they are not getting what they need

Answer 2

First off, it is a teachers job to teach students simply because it is expected of them, and they can not refuse the child based on their personal opinion or relationship with that student. However, if a child is disrupting and decreasing the other children's chance of learning they can be kicked out of the class or sent to the office. Im a student and I have had my fair shares of having issues with a teacher. If a teacher says anything personal or unappropriate, meaning it will decrease your child's self dignity or self respect, bring it to the principles attention and demand for an apology letter. For most cases, a teacher can act like they have all of the authority but the power is truly in the parents hands. SO if you feel your child has been mistreated, I recommend you ask any other parents if they have any complaints or previous problems with the teacher as well. Your child might just be miss behaved but I hope thats not the fact, and the teacher could just be a control freak and need to be put in his/her place. Talk with your child and see whats the deal? If you honestly think or feel that your child did nothing wrong. FIGHT for them, and don't give up till you win, cus eventually you will, either because your right or because the principle/teachers want this out of their way. Anyways hope this was helpful.

Answer 3

Sorry Dave - obviously your child's exclusion has come as a great shock to you, but you are just going to have to say 'My kid has messed up and I'm going to straighten him out'. My 30 years as a teacher taught me that there are some cases where the very very best teachers, after trying every strategy available to them, can no longer do their job/ vocation because of the actions of one kid, and that leaves exclusion as the only answer. For you and your child, this is the chance to turn things around and give him back the chance to benefit from his education. You will only achieve this by supporting the school.

Answer 4

Well at least this forum has allowed you to let off a bit of steam, not that you will get much in the way of sympathy.
One thing pretty high up on my 'Don't like at all' list , are unruly kids , whether they are at school or rampaging around the streets.
I also don't agree with your 'vocation' bit!
A nurse or a teacher is just the same as you or I, they go to work for the money, and as someone has already mentioned, they don't want unruly kids (or patients) disrupting all others.
I'm not sure what your gripe is, do you think this exclusion was unjust or do you think kids should be allowed to do whatever they want at school, or in the streets?

Answer 5

As a teacher I can say, yes we do have a responsibility to the students to protect and teach them. As such, some have to put in different classes, schools or excluded from certain activities for the benefit of the others. I have taught children that have been badly behaved enough to be considered a danger to me and the other students and these kids need help that I can't give. In a normal class there are 30 to 40 students and most teachers don't have the ability to check everyone constantly. The question to you is 'What did your child do to be excluded and how did you rectify the situation?'. It's your job to teach them right from wrong and it's our job to teach them Maths and English.

Answer 6

There are 30 kids in class the teachers job is to educate. Its your job to raise them if your child is disruptive then why should 29 other children's education suffer because the teacher is having to spend disproportionate amount of time with a disruptive child. So yes i believe the teacher does have the right to refuse a child. If only to force the parents which i assume you are to tackle the child's behaviour problems.

Answer 7

" Do a vocation" ???? What in the world? When your child returns to school, you should go with him.

And yes, disruptive students interfere with the teacher's ability to teach and keeps other students from learning. Your child was warned many times before finally being expelled. Expulsion is always the last step.

Answer 8

A teacher is a person who has been to university,then college at a great cost to themselves, so yes I think it is a vocation.
As to whether they should have the choice of whom to teach I think the operative word is `teach`. Crowd control is carried out by policemen.That is what you are asking a teacher to do if there are hooligans in the classroom who continually disrupt.
Why should the many be ruled by the few?
In other words why should the other children in the class be disadvantaged by one moron who doesn`t want to be there?
Take the exclusion and use the time at home with your child to teach some basic manners. If he doesn`t want to listen in class fine but ask him to keep his mouth closed so those who want to learn can.

Answer 9

First of all, I am not a teacher, so this may be out of line. However, I do feel that parents are ultimately responsible for their own children, and thus should make an effort to instill in their children certain basic rules of behavior. It somewhat irks me to have parents try to shift their child-rearing responsiblities onto teachers, coaches, librarians, bus drivers, store clerks, police, passers-by--anyone but themselves. If your child is disciplined by the school, you should find out why, and whether the reason can be corrected. Might teach the child a needed lesson.

Answer 10

After 4 questions on the same subject you still haven't got it yet....It's not about the teachers!!!!!! It's about your child. Many people have given you sound advice that you choose to ignor.
No where did it say a disrputive child shouldn't be taught....He isn't being expelled...after 10 days he returns.
And what about the people that are deprived of an education because of the disruptions by non-motivated students?
No one is going to change your mind.
Your next several years with your son are going to be very eventful.