Further again to my 14 year old being excluded.?

Question

Teachers are here to teach....Seems to be a common response. What about teachers teaching respect and discipline?. Should a teacher who feels intimidated by a 14 year old really consider a career change?..I think so..As for one child disrupting a class, then yes I agree it shouldn't happen, but a teacher dosn't have to shout the pupil down in front of the class he can remove him and do it after lesson, without the need for back up and suspensions. A teachers job is not only to teach the willing but also to convert the unwilling surely?....

Answer 1

At my school we have a place called 'sin bin' where all the naughty children go and write lines and undertake boring tasks dished out by the teacher. If your child was in my class, thats where he would be placed. If children can't behave themselves, then why should others suffer. At least with 'sin bin' the school's pencils are always sharpened and books are in alpabetical order, which helps the good children learn more easily.

Answer 2

I agree with the teacher too. Parents are supposed to teach their children respect, and manners and how to behave around other`people. unfortunately some parents lack those skills themselves. The class sizes are too big to be disrupted by one child. Some kids do not want to learn anything so have no ambitions for the future. i think most of it is attention seeking and to look "big" but i have found those kids are `only like that in front of an audience. Same as when parents blame their childs behaviour on adhd. RUBBISH!!! They are just out of control and are` allowed to do whatever they want at home cos the parents want a hassle free life. My kids are`31 and 21 and have never brought me any trouble cos they were never`allowed to roam the streets from a young age, or to disrespect adults. And why should 1 14 year old spoil the lessons for the other 30 or so other`children!

Answer 3

You being the parent should teach Respect & Discipline - that is your job you have brought this child into the world and it is your job to send them out being a well turned out individual, that is able to look after themselves and possibly a family.

The worrying thing about all of this is that you seem to be blaming someone else for your child's behaviour. You need to stop it - no one else but you (and your partner?) is going to fix this problem, your child will not be willing or prepared to learn until they understand that there are boundaries, rules and consequences to their actions - these must be consistent otherwise your child will run wild and you will have more problems later in life that just being suspended from school .

Teachers have a hard enough time trying to control 30 children and get them through their exams. They should not have to bring children up as well. You need to sort this out not them and if you can't you need to speak to someone to get some parenting advice stop blaming other people and deal with this problem at home.

Answer 4

I agree teachers should be able to teach both the 'good kids' and the 'bad kids' when I was at school I was a little sod and was always in trouble the teachers were not willing to make the effort.

The kids can also see when a teacher is a push over and will play on it. A child should never be shouted down in a class room it is not nice the best teacher I ever had did not need to shout we already respected him.

Also I have always found excluding a kid a soft option as it gives the kid a couple of days of school lol which most kids want these days. I remember when I was at school a mate of mine got suspended for playing truant lol

Answer 5

Shouting a student down in front of the class IS a form of discipline,you simply do not agree with the method.
Listen to yourself,this is why teachers are no longer free to "discipline" students the way they feel is most effective.

Parents want the teachers to raise their children,but want to maintain full control over it too.Discipline my child,but only do it the way I think it should be done.
It's worse when the kids know that if the teacher scolds him/her that their mother or father will be there the next day swearing to god that their child is an angel.

Answer 6

Converting the unwilling is easier said than done. One has to remember that some students deal with circumstances well beyond the control of both the student and the teacher. When students bear the burdons of adults often times they lose their interest in school as well as their desire to do well. Some students are only in school because the alternative is to be locked up etc. Their are so many complicated combinations of reasons that explain why students may be disruptive in class. Classroom management is absolutely part of classroom management, but a teacher cannot always convert the unwilling, just as some cars cannot be repaired...they go to the junk yard; some patients cannot be healed-sadly, they die; some cases cannot be won-defendants end up in prison. While I do not think that yelling a student down in class is the best solution to dealing with inappropriate behaviors, at times it does happen. And sometimes a student WILL NOT fall in line unless and until he/she gets shut down in front of his peers. it's not fun and it usually comes as a final attempt to establish control, but sometimes it is effective. Parents do not usually like this and teachers generally do not enjoy having to do it, but it happens.

Answer 7

you can only teach if the little shits want to learn.Most of the teaching time is taken up by policing the little ba**st why should a teacher have to put up with one disruptive Little **** when the rest want to learn and it not up to the teacher to teach morals, Manners and RESPECT to the little darlings,its the parent's and,as most kids that are disrespectful have bad parenting to blame,if they have good support at home they are generally respectful to everyone at school. it is not about a teacher feeling intimidated by a 14 year old child but rather that a teacher has a classful of 14 yr olds to teach as well as the obnoxious one all of whom have a legal entitlement to a good education. if your child does not have the inclination to learn why should the others loose their entitlement because of your selfish child. i agree with you that shouting someone down in front of the class is not right and that the student concerned should be spoken to in private but more often than not students who are excluded have been given numerous chances and exclusion is a last resort. if you as a parent were doing your job of bringing up your offspring properly you would be working in partnership with your childs school and you would be trying to instill into your child the importance of a good education for their future instead of blaming the school for your mistakes

Answer 8

I'm afraid I agree with the teacher here. Teachers are here to teach subjects on the curriculum. Respect and discipline should be taught at home. Furthermore, the reason a teachers shouts down an unruly child in front of the whole class is to humiliate him and that usually does the trick.

Answer 9

Respect for adults is something that is taugh at home, and before a child even goes to school.
It sounds like you got in plenty of trouble when ou were at school, maybe you should taught your child how to behave differently to you.
It is a parents job to teach children manners, and a teachers job to teach them knowledge.
Why should one child in a class take the teacher attention away from all of the other children that are behaving?

Answer 10

As a parent you have the natural right to care about your child. As an ex-teacher, some children cause such havoc that the teacher is expected to be a virtual punch bag. When a student disrupts then that student should be removed.