Did Abraham Lincoln rely say this about black people and did he want to ship them back to africa?

Question

Abraham Lincoln: considered blacks to be,in his words“a troublesome presence” in the United States.“
I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”

The Storm Cloud Says...I asked an honest question about histry that I was never taught in school Its people like you that hide the truth about history to fit your own PC agenda retard.

Answer 1

Yes, he did, but I don't think they teach this in history class. As a matter of fact, ending slavery was incidental to the Civil War and Lincoln would've allowed slavery to stand if it would've saved the union.

Answer 2

Yes, the quote is accurate, and it is from Lincoln's Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas in 1858. (as you no doubt already know, if you have the full quote>) The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, "Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois" (September 18, 1858), pp. 145-146." Lincoln was responding to Douglas' claim that these outcomes would be the result of adopting Lincoln's views on the black race. Lincoln, responds to Douglas' charges.

Did this reflect the full and complete views of Lincoln on the issue of slavery? Obviously not. Or was it keyed to the political necessities and the audience who was listening, and who would be reading in newspapers the content of the debate? One thing is certain, in the race between Lincoln and Douglas, Douglas was the complete racist, and the positions of Lincoln were,for that time, moderate !

Did Lincoln somehow change during the next several years, through the terrible travail of war, and involved in a lot of soul-searching on the meaning of the war, and the meaning of slavery? Some historians believe so. Whatever the reason, whether because of deeply held convictions or political necessity, he obviously changed, and changed significantly. Did he grow as a leader and as a philosopher in those years? You judge. Here is a famous quote, only four years after the first one, and just before issuing the Emancipation Proclamation, just one month later Jan.1st, 1863:

""In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free - honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just - a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless." Lincoln's Second Annual Message to Congress, December 1, 1862.

Answer 3

Yes, this statement was attributed to him when he was in the process of penning the Emancipation Proclamation in the months of November/December of 1862. This was brought up due to the fact that his wife Mary Todd, whose family was from the south (she had two brothers that served in the Confederate Army) and she had relatives who owned slaves. At the time of his words, this philosophy was not indicative of all northern citizens. But I would say that he did fall into a broad based male pattern of the "old style European masters being all white men" syndrome. And is it not ironic, that at the end of the Civil War, that with the fall of Richmond in March 1865, that he rode to the city and the "freed Negroes" almost worshiped him and saying the phrase "the great white master has come to free us"! Still, for all his faults, to me he will always be the best President this nation has produced.

Answer 4

Yes, this was a quote from a debate he had with Stephen Douglas in 1858. This accurately depicts Lincoln's views on equality and slavery.

Another interesting quote by Lincoln was given during his first inaugural address on March 4, 1861: "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this, and many similar declarations, and had never recanted them."

This also clearly demonstrates Lincoln's accurate views on slavery. It was not until 2 years into the war, when the Union was losing badly, that Lincoln shifted gears and issued the Emancipation Proclamation.....which freed no one. Lincoln went out of his way to state in the proclamation that only slaves in Confederate held territory were free. Since Lincoln had no control over Confederate held territory, it freed no one. The proclamation was issued as a propaganda effort to motivate northern troops who were deserting by the thousands. Also in the north, riots were taking place in every major city by people furious about being drafted and forced to fight against other Americans.

Through the American Colonization Society (ACS) the plan was hatched in the 1820's and 1830's to remove all freed blacks from American soil to the African nation of Liberia. This was supported by several of the slave states in America, but was supported by several northern states and personally by Abraham Lincoln himself. He thought that the 'inferor' blacks did not belong in the United States. In 1862, Abraham Lincoln made the United States the first nation to formally recognize the nation of Liberia.

Answer 5

I suppose he might have said that..but it was not an unusual position among whites, both north and south.

You must remember that Lincoln was trying to keep the country together at a time when he really couldn't even trust the men on his staff. He was willing to at least consider just about any idea.

If you think that's bad, read up on what he said about Native Americans....of which I are one, and I still think Linclon was a good president considering the dilemma he faced.

Our country has come a long way since then.

Answer 6

He proposed after the civil conflict replaced into over that the Africans that had to stay in Africa ought to. the rustic of Liberia replaced into created because of the fact some blacks did prefer to circulate to Africa.

Answer 7

If he did then he must have also been schizophrenic because he enacted the Emancipation Proclamation and he always opposed slavery, even as a kid. But, to give you a better, more fair answer, it is said that if he was transplanted into today's society he would have been considered prejudiced but in terms of the 1800s, his policies and mindset was actually considered quite progressive. He basically led the pack in terms of white people promoting racial equality (back then).

Answer 8

yes he did his thoughts were to return all *****'s to their home from which they were taken against their will. he ordered boats to do so but the cost turned out to be too high , It would have been better to send them back that way the nation would have far fewer murders and we would not have to deal with all the welfare and money for prisons .

Answer 9

Yes he said exactly that. And yes there was alot of talk about sending them back to Afreeka. The joke is they thought it would cost too much........................If they only knew how wrong that was.

Answer 10

yes and for the most part hes been shone to be right with a minority exception