Why are Tamils so militant?

Question

Not that theres anything wrong, but I want to know why. They are always rejecting the learning of hindi and very separatist in mentality. They tend to favor lower-caste peoples and reject, even hate Brahmin castes, called lyengars. Great revolutionaries like Periyar were always pushing for a DMK party and Tamil unity. I wonder why this is so. Is it because they have the most original language in India or because subconsciously, they still retain the anger fueled by invading Aryan tribes from the north, who pushed their racist Hinduism and Samskrtam language on the Tamils? Are tamils patriotic for India or are they separatist only? Not to be racist or anything. Just wanna know.

Answer 1

Tecmatic

Tamils are not "militant". but they "seem" militant to you because they want to preserve their culture and identity.

Im a Tamil from whats "now" called as sri lanka and i will try to answer these question to the best of my ability

alrighty; now to the q

there are quite a few inaccuracies in ur statement, i will go through them in the order they were present in your question

first of all they don't "favour" low-caste people. they simply do not like a system "imposed" on them by outsiders.its as simple as that. how would you react if ..lets say..the Americans made up a "caste system" and imposed it on the north Indians? and to make matters worse, what would you do if the hypothetical "caste system" invented by the Americans would put the north Indians on the lowest lvl of their system?.

and to top it all, how would you feel if the hypothetical caste system not only puts most of the north Indians as the lowest of castes but also make sure that only Americans living in north india + north indians who have totally enspouced the American (culture+language(English)) would be considered the high-castes? and to add insult to injury how would it be if the north indians ar told that all their religious services would be conducted in english? cos now thats the "sacred language" of the high caste?

would u not feel angry and upset?

this is Exactly what happening in south India, Especially in Tamil Nadu and where ever Tamils live.

and as you yourself had asked, Tamil is The oldest and purest surviving language thats native to south Asia (Sanskrit is not native to India) It is also the Only surviving classical language thats still spoken and written by the people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_language

(north india speaks hindi, not sanskrit)

and i need not add that Its th Tamils(Dravidian(the Sanskrit word "Davida" actually meant "Tamil)) who were the builders of the Indus valley civilization. When the Aryan people moved into India (they were not invaders but moved in as pastorialists/nomads over a period of time starting from around 1800 bc (long after the Indus valley culture had died, due to the shifting of the river indus)

Much of whats core to todays hinduism actually was taken from the natiave dravidian people, i need not mention that shiva (siva in tamil ) derives his name from "sivappu"(red). he was a pre-aryan indus deity, the triple horned meditative indus figurines are ample evidence of this

(indus pic of siva in yogic meditation)
http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/formsofshiva

and if being the founders of the Indus civilization and the core of whats now known as Hinduism(its a Persian term) is not enough to instill the pride of being Tamil, it is also important to remember that its the Tamils who had the first Indian empire that spread outside of India.The tamil Chola Empire. The Naval power of the Cholas was more than a match for even that of the Chinese emperor during the 10-12 centuries.
south east asia and its seas were called the "Chola lake"
The Cholas were the Indian Equivalent of the romans.They were not only known for their military and organizational might, but also for their patronage of the arts and the breathtakingly beautiful temples they built

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chola_dynasty

The Tamil empire extended to the south east Asian islands.Its influence is felt even to this day. there are a lot of Hindus living in Bali even today. Even the king of the now-Buddhist country of Thailand is recited verses from the Tamil sacred-hym "Thiruvasakam" when he is coronated(made a king)

And as we all know, What the world praises as the Epitome of Hindu art is the form of the Chola-Nataraja
http://www.denverartmuseum.org/files/collection_object/shiva_full.jpg

And it was the Tamils, who revived Hinduism in India when it had all but died on northern India.India was mostly Buddhist and jain in the 7-8centuries, It was thanks to Sankara and other Tamil saints who started the "bhakti" tradition that Hinduism revived. Not to mention the fact that most of the Hindu temples all around the world are of Tamil-dravidian design. with the multiple towering gopurams. and lets not forget the wonderful dancing syatem, called "baratanatyam";another gift of tamils to india as a whole

So is it not understandable that Tamils would take pride in being Tamil and in their language

It is really ethnocentric and ignorant of the north Indians to expect Tamils to start learning Hindi(unless of course the Tamils want to learn it cos of their own interest)> Tamils do not force Tamil down the throats of North Indians and all they ask is to be given the same decency.

and don't forget..Sanskrit is dead as a popular(i mean poppular=spoken by people). and Tamil lives.Tamils can understand tamil poems and literature written 2300 years ago. when thiruvalluvars "kurral" is read, any tamil can understand it! this shows how much tamil has retained its purity vis a vis other indian languages. can an average hindi person understand ANY of the sanskrit slokas?nope! Wouldnt it be hilarious if tamils were to give prominence to any other language?

why cant all the Indian people learn their own languages and stop imposing their will on others?is it something thats Too much to ask?

so all in all, Tamils have too much pride(and rigtfully so) In their language to have it play second fiddle to any other, In their own native land.

live and let live. people should not impose themselves on others.

hope this helps:)

Ramsey, get ur facts straight

there is No envy.lol. we simply don't buy into ur caste system. its simple as that.rolfmao!
why don't u see the The native tamils of ilangai("now" known as srilanka)The brahmins are not the high caste there. they are confined to the temples and have no say in politics nor social life whatsoever.If you ask a tamil if he is envious of brahmins he would laugh at your face.lol

PS: Barcadi

What the heck? tamils are bangaladeshis? HAHAHA thats hilarious. its the sinhalese who came ove from bangaladesh. and from the central asian steppes before that.

lol 1983 anti-tamil pogrom is the fault of tamils? LOL. what next? what about the 1954,1958,1963,1973,1977,1981 and 1987 anti Tamil massacres?

thanks for broadcasting the "extent" of your knowledge:)

Mr,barcadi pls stew in ur own racist juices. i wont even bother to reply to such an ignorant post.

PS: Phantom

you seem to have misread what i posted. i posted cleary that there was no aryan "invasion" that destroyed the inus civilization are previously belived but Aryans DID migrate to india in waves, (not one single migration)starting at around 1800 Bc(almost 500 years AFTER the indus civilizations demise)


the links you have posted are actually Old ones. and the reasons the proponents of the theory who say "aryans were native to india" argue with are reasons that have already been listed as being obsolete!.lol.

and Not to mention the fact that there are quite a lot of LIES in the link that u posted. it had been argued, and proven that they were lies in the greater archaeological community but this worthless article seems to still live -online ; amongst the people who just dont want to see the writing on the wall.

i will list some proofs why the link you provided has a cartload of lies

1 the article u provided says that there have been a skeleton of a horse found on Indus civilization

first of all, to find 1 "one" skeleton of a hosrse, in a civilization that had hundreds of thousands of cows and other animals are not surprising!! we all know that the sumerians had known of the horse and they traded with indus valley.

But the aryan Vedas speak almost exclusively about horses, so pray do thell me why there havnt been any other horse skeletons found?

AND NOW COMES THE SHOCKER
THE "horse" that has been found in the indus civilization is HOAX!! A PROVEN hoax!!
read this article by
The Indus Valley Decipherment Hoax

MICHAEL WITZEL, a Harvard University Indologist, and STEVE FARMER, a comparative historian, report on media hype, faked data, and propaganda in recent claims that the Indus Valley script has been decode

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1720/17200040.htm

those who wrote the article on the link you provided should be ashamed of themselves for resorting to fakery!! sheesh! what a disgrace!

and also, the common that "many rivers have Sanskrit names" in that area is such baloney!

do u know that the word "ganga" itself is not originally Sanskrit? its proven to be either a "Munda" or "Dravidian' word. even Sanskrit scholars agree.

and guess whats the origin of the other so called aryan word "Pur/puri" (meaning city).?? It derives from the Dravidian word "Ur" and interestingly the Sumerian word "UR" has the same meaning and linguists acknowledge the fact that the Sumerian language Might have been heavily influenced/and/or/ be an offshoot of the Dravidian language

even today in tamil we use the word "ur". the main cities of the Sumerians had the names "Urruk" and "Nippur"


and finally many of the names of the hindu gods and godesses are actually the names of the gods and godesses of the Indus valley people(dravidians). the aryans co-opted these gods into their Pantheon, lol..even the higest of all hindu gods; "siva" is a dravidian god.

pls read some history/archeology before you post fact that would only make you seem ignorant

hope that helps:)
So the bottom line is that Aryans were Not invaders BUT they were NOT the natives either!

Answer 2

May i ask why u generalize the whole lot? Whats wrong with one favouring the so called "lower-caste" people? To the guy above who answered that brahmins are "fairer" should pull his head out of his a**. I really have nothing to say. You guys are soo outmoded. Forget abt being patriotic towards your homeland. Go concentrate on more important issues instead and stop worrying abt other people.

Answer 3

tecmatic
It is not easy to decode the tamil psyche.
The DMK is blatantly anti North, anti Brahmin , Anti Hindi & anti Aryans.It is ruling TN today.
Not liking brahmins is pure envy, they R more learned & fairer.
The Tamils will be the first to secede from India if such a chance arises. So sad !

Answer 4

Debunking AIT:
http://www.tamilnation.org/heritage/agrawal.htm

India does NOT have any National language:
http://vetri-vel.blogspot.com/2006/12/india-does-not-have-national-language.html

Answer 5

They are surrounded by evil .