Why shouldn't abortion be illegal?

Question

Here is my view on the abortion subject. **Please Note that the following does not apply to certain cases**

I think that if you decide to have sex, you should be expecting a baby. You should know that condoms do not always work and birth control does not always work. It it the function of everyone's reproductive system to make babies, so by using that function you should be expecting a baby. None of this "Well the protection didn't work so it's not my fault." It is your fault because you're the one having sex without thinking of the consequences. And no more of this "It's a woman's body." crap either, because once she's impregnated her body is being shared with another person. If you choose to have that person (the baby) inside yourself, you definitely should not have the right to kill him/her.

I will be adding more (I'm almost out of space), but I want to address something. This does not include women who get raped or women whose life is at stake because of the baby.

To continue....

Does that baby not have the same rights as you? What makes you superior to him/her? Can someone just come up to you and say "Hey, I don't want you in this world" and kill you? No! Why can you do the same to a baby? It's a major, major form of child abuse and taking away someone's rights. People have the right to live, don't they?

To continue on the part of my question that is the exception, if a woman gets raped she should have the choice to have an abortion. The only way she'd be able to have it, though, is if she presses charges against the accused rapist (if the rapist cannot be found, there has to be clear evidence of a struggle).

If a woman's life is in danger, for example a bad car crash, and they need to terminate the pregnancy in order to save the mother's life, so be it. This is a tough call, but the mother was being generous with granting life to the unborn child so the mom's generosity shouldn't be held against her.

Responses:

"Pro-Choice"...the woman had the choice to have sex. She has to live with the consequences. It's like robbing banks for millions of dollars, then complaining when you have to go to a very very hot place.

Responses:

"Incest"....The statutory crime of sexual relations with such a near relative.

It's an illegal sex, like rape. So it would be the same as rape. Or the other definition..where you just have sex with your brother. Well, you'd still have to live with that consequence, wouldn't you?

Responses:
to thewilds01

No, jerking off isn't killing, because those cells alone are not going to form into a human. A fetus will, though.


And the idea about only letting one abortion occur is a good one. Unwanted babies are going to start no matter what, so allowing them one to learn is a good idea.

Yeah there are two sides of the story, obviously. I just asked to see what you guys thought.

It does all depend on when the fetus is considered a human. And please don't say that "But I still firmly believe it is MY choice and NO MAN should be able to take the RIGHT from me" 1) you had the choice to have sex and 2) there are a lot of women against abortion, so stop being sexist by saying that guys are only telling you what to do with your body.

Answer 1

i understand your reasoning; you shouldnt be having sex if your not ready to handle the responsibility of a baby.
but the thing is, people make mistakes and i believe that we shouldnt take away a women's choice when it comes to her body, (because at the end of the day yes, it is her body)
i believe in pro-choice because in a free country, we should have that freedom, however, i do believe that a woman should be given a limit on abortions if the baby is NOT making her sick and if she WILLINGLY had sex. in that case she should only be allowed one, because she should learn from her first mistake.

Answer 2

If all you said was the baby is a person with the right to live and abortion for birth control should be illegal, you'd be surprised how many feminists would agree with you. Most of us discourage abortion as birth control by encouraging the mothers of healthy babies to CHOOSE other alternatives. However, those of you very anti abortion always resort to language that hints that you don't see women as equal, their choices as equal, their alternatives as equal, etc. I'm refering to terms like "And no more of this 'It's a woman's body' crap, because once she's been impregnated her body is being shared with another person." That's very revealing language. As is your argument that there should be an exception in cases of rape. If a woman is raped does the fetus stop being a baby? If it was only about saving innocent healthy babies lives, there wouldn't be a rape exception. It wouldn't matter who the father was. It only matters that an innocent baby would be killed. However, you only want to allow a woman an abortion if the rapist doesn't have rights to the woman's "shared" body. If it's her boyfriend's or husband's baby she doesn't have abortion rights, but if it's a stranger's baby she does. That seems to have more to do with a men's rights to a woman's reproductive organs than a baby's right to live. Your total presentation smacks of considering a woman a breeder rather than an adult citizen. THIS IS WHY we as prolife people of all political persuasions haven't yet come together to ban abortion for birth control. Because you can't present it without implications that women will lose reproductive rights or the right to control what happens to their bodies. It will be rolled back to a time when women were considered human breeders and property of men rather than citizens with rights.
Right to life, yes, shared body no.

Answer 3

What makes a fetus from rape so different from a fetus from consensual sex?

They're still human... they're still very much alive... and still have fingers and toes and everything else that pro-lifers like to point out.

Pregnancy and babies shouldn't be punishments because a women decided to have sex. Which is what allowing abortions in some cases and not others is doing.

And... amazingly enough just because something bad can come out of something, it doesn't mean that there is consent for that bad thing to happen.

If you are in a car crash, you are not supposed to simply die because you got in to that car. You do not leave a child blind because he accidentally got hit in the eye playing baseball and no one reacted.

Also, even when normal, healthy couples are trying to conceive there's only a 20% chance a month, so no, contrary to what you believe you shouldn't not be "expecting" a baby every time you have sex.

Answer 4

Abortion should be legal for these fun reasons:

*If it were illegal, women would start shoving knives up their ***** in bathrooms of Hobby Lobby. Gross, but true.

*You say "This does not include women who get raped or women whose life is at stake because of the baby". Well, if that were the case, a lot of women would start lying and claiming to have been raped. Lawsuits would ensue.

*Even if it is legal, I think that by educating women about what the fetus goes through, they'd still end up making the moral decision to have the baby and just give it up for adoption.

Still, I think the best way to settle it would be to come up with some sort of compromise. Maybe as soon as a woman finds out she's pregnant, she has a short amount of time to keep the baby or abort it. Aborting a baby that's due to be born in 3 weeks could be illegal, but aborting a fetus that's just been discovered could be allowed.

Answer 5

Well all the Christians say that, “well god doesn’t like us killing life!" first of all it's potential life. Not I repeat not Life there could be a miscarriage the baby could die during birth. Also what if the child can’t be supported? Or the parent isn’t emotionally ready or financially ready to support a child allot of children that know they are adopted end up killing them self’s because they go into the world thinking,” my real parents didn’t love me so they gave me away!" this causes issues with depression can lead to drug abuse etc and ultimately suicide. My cousin was adopted. He shot him self. Why you ask? Because he thought he wasn’t loved it is what he said on his suicide note. Also I don’t think it is right for 14 year old girls to have the burden of the baby. Also allot of the Conservatives think any form of protection is against gods will, and my friend the truth is. Its the woman’s body she can do what she wants with it its not someone in governments job or for a matter of fact Conservatives jobs or business or right to tell a woman what she cant or can domestically if this woman you don’t know you have no say in her life. This country was founded on freedom of religion not religion. The only reason under god was put in the pledge of allegiance was to anger the communists in the fiftys. In reality it should have been taken out when the Soviet Union collapsed. But by then the Conservatives where in charge so they kept it in there. It’s the same thing with gay marriage. You don’t have the right to tell them how to live their lives. Besides I’m fourteen I’m going to have to pay the minimum of thirty five thousand dollars in taxes/fees for your little crusade in Iraq. This isn't my debt to pay; never the less i will still have to pay it. If Homosexual marriage was permitted in America. My generation would have to pay considerably less money, why you ask? Goverment can tax marriage and the debt could possibly go down consederably. Point being. It isn't your business just isn't Sorry, and you quote,” you shouldn't have the right to kill him/her”, Your killing A Fetus. Is A Fetus not a Human being? It could live or die. I’m sorry I don't agree with you and I am on good terms with you as a person but I simply do not agree with your Theory.
-Me

Answer 6

okay i'm going to try to be civil and not get all emotional here, because truly this is a very emotional subject for everyone, but mostly women. All its my body and its a baby aside...
Do you really truly honest to God want to go back to pre Roe vs. Wade? With back alley abortions and hacks who claim to be dr's doing the procedure? Seriously if you have not seen If These Walls Could Talk, watch it. It was a special on HBO around 1996. As women it is our right period! While I agree it should not be used as a dominate form of birth control, it is the a womens choice and yes believe it or not accidents do happen.All men do not have to live with that accident if they chose not too. Women should have the same choice. If abortion were illegal (again), and a woman could not find some back alley hack to perform it, then she would be forced to live with that accident, while the man who helped in the process would be free to continue his life. And yes I realize that there are other options, like adoption. But I still firmly believe it is MY choice and NO MAN should be able to take the RIGHT from me. You don't see us women telling you what you can and can not do with your body....now do you?

Answer 7

I've never thought that much on the topic. i know many people are against it. I've always supported it for the reasons you said about rape and the woman's life being at stake so... lol I guess you got me there.
I think the reason the debate lasts so long though, is becuase no one has defined what is human yet. until a baby is 20 weeks developed, it can't feel pain, it's just a bundle of organs, so if people decide that that's not necessarily a person, than it's not killing anyone. before that even it's just a bundle of cells, like a tumor, the only thing that makes it different is that we know that this* tumor will eventually turn into sometihng similar to ourselves.
I'm prochoice though, I have no right to fiddle with other people's lives, just like, no matter what my decision, no one has the right to meddle in mine.

Answer 8

Ever see the movie Idiocracy? The fact is that many people are irresponsible and will never use birth control or practice abstinence. Many of these people can not afford to support a child, and have zero interest in raising a child properly. There are too many children raising themselves, and this just adds to the cycle of poverty as these children grow up and repeat the same lifestyle as their parents. I personally am not opposed to early abortion, because at that stage I do not see it as a human life with a soul.

Answer 9

This is what the Methodist Book of Discipline has to say:

Abortion -- The beginning of life and the ending of life are the God-given boundaries of human existence. While individuals have always had some degree of control over when they would die, they now have the awesome power to determine when and even whether new individuals will be born. Our belief in the sanctity of unborn human life makes us reluctant to approve abortion. But we are equally bound to respect the sacredness of the life and well-being of the mother, for whom devastating damage may result from an unacceptable pregnancy. In continence with past Christian teaching, we recognize tragic conflicts of life whit life that may justify abortion, and in such cases we support the legal option of abortion under proper medical procedures. We cannot affirm abortion as an acceptable means of birth control, and we unconditionally reject it as a means of gender selection. We call all Christians to a searching and prayerful inquiry into the sorts of conditions that may warrant abortion. We commit our church to continue to provide nurturing ministries to those who terminate a pregnancy, to those in the midst of a crisis pregnancy, and to those who give birth. Governmental laws and regulations do net provide all the guidance required by the informed Christian conscience. Therefore, a decision concerning abortion should be made only after thoughtful prayer and prayerful consideration by the parties involved, with medical, pastoral, and other appropriate counsel.

Answer 10

Yes, but what if the person who is pregnant had sexual intercourse without wanting to participate such as "rape" then they should not have to have the child for they had no part taken in the action. That is just an exception I believe so I think it should be legal under certain circumstances.

Answer 11

first i want to say that i completely respect your view and beliefs and i actually agree with some of your argument....however, a fetus has no constitutional rights in this country since the rights apply once someone is born..this nations laws are not made by the bible..the separation of church and state make sure of that...

if this country were ruled by the bible then i would say it should be illegal...i believe this is more of a religious debate than an actual political debate...this constitution protects the rights as soon as a person is born, not before hand.