How is socialism a bad thing?

Question

I would like data with references, not the right wing propaganda spewed about how it harms the group... show me at least a train of logic....



Also, do you see the greatest struggle for every country is to take the power and wealth from the elite and give it to the people?

Answer 1

Hello Xialou, I hope that some of these websites can help give you a peek at my train of thought. You might believe everything to be biased by right-wing propoganda, but that is exactly what I see whenever I read anything about the republicans or democrats. I believe they follow a myth in some sort or another. I good myth but still a myth. I truly believe most people want to help but I just believe strongly that economic growth and freedom should be protected in a free land. The only way to bring about economic growth is through economic freedom through competitive markets. Human nature has to be placed into markets to minimize corruption and to excel technology. In all reality, corruption is easier to get while in government! I truly believe that the people build great societies and then the government walks in and damages what the people have made. A statist is someone who doesn't understand that there is a fluctuation in money and the strength of our dollar every day. Economic growth is impossible when the government takes all the money that invests through the banking system. A statist believes that for one person to be rich, is to steal from another. This is not true and not how life works. Every time a country has risen to power, the proletarians make a stupid movement and use big government and it destroys most of the hardwork that the people have done. There is a reason why IGA owns grocery stores and why Chevy builds cars instead of the government. Capitalism is comparably the best way to reduce racism as well through the use of impersonal markets and lower corruption levels. It is sad that government can't be used efficiently, but life is a *****. Government is the corruption you are fighting against. I am not a republican, in fact, I cringe when I see some of the things they do. I believe that moral and political freedoms are being thrown away by our government everyday and the only thing we can do about it is pick which ones we want to get rid of first. It really is voting between two evils. Some people say I throw my vote away. I tell them to look in the mirror! I hope this helps. ~ Libertarian

Answer 2

Socialism is a bad thing because it is the reduction of free choice.

No, the object of society is NOT to redistibute wealth. See, all wealth is created. It's not manna from heaven than just happened to fall to some and not others. And laws that require redistribution reduce the amount of wealth that is created - that's why the people in capitalist countries that are poor relative to the rich in those countries are rich relative to the middle class in socialist countries.

Socialism produces more equality but only by cutting down the top, not building up the bottom. Capitalism builds at all levels, not at the same rate but at all levels.

Absolute mobility among those levels is also greater in capitalist countries.

And it's not a matter of relative mobility "compensating" for gaps of different sizes. The Ginni index is about the same in Scandanavia as it is in the US - it is common to rise from the 70th percentile to the 20th in both countries. But in Scandanavia the gap between 70th and 20th is about $15K while in the US it is about $40K. So it's as easy to increase your income by $40K in the US as it is to increase your income by $15K in Scandanavia.

Answer 3

Because there is alot of waste in social programs because they use other peoples money. Like public schools, some schools spend $25,000 a year to educate 1 student. Thats way too much and I don't have any kids but I still have to pay taxes for it.

Answer 4

For example. You work hard to save up for retirement. You've earned enough money to do all the things you dreamed about while growing up and you also have enough to give to your grandchildren.
But because of socialism the most of the money that you have earned is taken away and given to people who need it, but did not earn it.
Yes you have enough to live on, maybe even comfortably, but you now can't go travel or fulfill your dreams.

I don't like the idea of what I've earned being given to someone who didn't earn it. Our system now isn't perfect and taxes, but it isn't complete socialism where I would have to give up much of what I've earned.
Why should the wealthy (even middle class) give what they have earned to the people?

Answer 5

"give it to the people...???"

How about this. Go, get a job, work hard, save your money, make wise decisons, and be wealthy.

Carnegie was an orphan who became wealthy. No one has a right to the property that I create with my own labor. Socialism makes slaves of us all by daring to state that all property is the property of the state. It reverses itself to royalism.

Ayn Rand does the best outlay in Fountainhead, if you are interested in a good read.

Answer 6

Nazi's advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, national resources, manufacturing, distribution and law enforcement.Hitler came to power by turning the working class, unemployed, and academic elite against the conservative republicans. After Hitlers election ceased being a political conspiracy and was transformed into a fashionable social phenomenon, party membership was especially popular with educators, bureaucrats, and the press. Being a Nazi was "politically correct". The Gestapo began to confiscate and seize the homes, businesses, bank accounts, and personal belongings of wealthy conservative citizens who had prospered in the old Republic.. Didn't Hillery just say she wants to take profits and cap profits on big business...
and Christians were widely condemned as "right wing fanatics". Look at what happened to these people..
Germany and Korea were divided after the Second World War into approximately equal portions. West Germany had about the same land, population and resources as East Germany, Silesia, Pomerania and East Prussia; South Korea had about the same land and population as North Korea. The free portions of these nations were far better off in every way than the socialist portions. The Chinese people who live in Hong Kong or Taiwan have much better lives than Chinese people in Communist China. Cubans before Castro had one of the highest standards of living in the world, as well as the most open political debates of any Latin American nation in history. The pattern is invariably the same: socialism fails miserably in every way.
Look at the European Block nations. Socialism has brought ignorance, personal and national poverty, and a total disregard for the rights of the individual to every country they have gotten power in. At the same time, one of the platforms they use to gain power is promising individual rights and an equal social status with divided wealth. This can be very attractive to some who for one reason or another feel like they have been disenfranchised, either electorally, socially or personally. Socialism thrives on those who follow out of ignorance, misplaced loyalty to some other group and poverty. The outcry in America that our children do not need to be taught patriotism comes from the left wing of the Democrat party also. It will be so easy for Socialism to get control in America if a generation has no allegiance to a patriotic dream. They say our children do not need to learn the Star Spangled Banner. The left says our children don’t need to know the Pledge Of Allegiance to The United States Of America. They say they can see nothing wrong with burning the American flag. These facts alone should be enough to make any American stand up and say “enough is enough”, but Democrats will go and vote these left wing radicals into political office.There is a growing support for government sponsored health insurance. It would be nice if this could be done without forfeiting individual rights, but the truth is, it would lead to total government control over our medical care. The government would decide who gets what level of treatment and how much will be spent on them according to their usefulness to society.
If you are American, why are you so willing to give up all your freedoms????? Why do you think all these people are trying to escape socialist countries and come here.... Wake Up.

Answer 7

The socialist idea sounded altruistic to those who began it, and it sounds altruistic to the naive who believe in it today. In practice, however, it creates self-centered individuals and a narcissistic society. So while it may have begun as a way to help others, it has come to mean a way of evading responsibility for oneself and for others.

Answer 8

Let's say you and I are given a project to develop a new form of technology.

Let's say my creation is a successful product and becomes widespread in its marketplace. Yours fails (or mine fails, whatever).

It is right for my gain to be taken away and given to you? Or how about we throw a third person in here. They are given the same task as both of us. But they don't even bother to try to invent the product. Should we then be obligated to provide them support? I think not.

That's your answer.

Answer 9

Like any 'pure' system, it doesn't work, just like 'pure' capitalism or communism.

Every system has its positives and has to be modified to reduce the negatives.

Socialist-leaning societies help the poor but dampen market performance; capitalist-leaning societies are more dynamic but suffer booms and crashes.

Answer 10

well.. I'm a lefty.. but pure socialism is a great idea that works for a while.. but it is more subject to corruption... corruption happens in all governments.. but capitalist democracies and republics are hardly phased by it... whereas communism and socialism have to have very low levels of corruption to function properly.