Palestine and Israel - (their point of views not USA)?

Question

I need three reasons why Palestine should become a country or why they deserve to get land. Three reasons why Israel deserves land. (from their point of views)

Answer 1

palestinian view:
1) arabs have been living there as a majority for the last centuries (even though under turkish rule), they claim for self-determination, it's their country and their land.
2) they were taken the land away against their will by foreign countries who gave it to israel, or they lost it to israel in the following wars.
3) they have been living under foreign occupation or in refugee camps for the last 50 years

israeli view:
1) it was their homeland centuries ago (and some jewish communities remained living there)
2) it was promised to them by the british when they were ruling the territory as a colonial power, and a part of it was given to them by the UN
3) they have fought for it and conquered other parts of it and developed it, and though the first generations were mostly immigrated, the new generations were born and raised there.

tried to write out what i know about both points of view, i hope it can be considered objective.

Answer 2

Ask the Land Owner

Genesis 12:3

Answer 3

There is but one Jewish state in the entire world. There are 22 Arab states. The last thing the world needs is still another Arab state, and one that is sworn to destroy Israel.

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples". The main tribes were Tzekelesh, Shardana, Akhaiusha, Danauna, Tzakara, Masa or Meshwesh, Lukki, Dardana, Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Labu and Irven. The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took control of the island. These ancient Cretans arrived in Southern Canaan and were known as "Pelestim and Keretim" by Hebrews and Canaanites (that became allied to fight the invaders). Their first settlement seem to have been Gaza, whose original name was "Minoah", a clear reference to the fallen Minoic kingdom. They also invaded Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Ramose III in the 12th century b.c.e. The Philistines were organized in city-states, being the most important the Pentapolis: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron, and their territory was close to the Mediterranean coast, a little longer and broader than the present-day "Gaza Strip" - not the whole Judah, they never reached Hevron, Jerusalem or Yericho!

Answer 4

From the point of view of the Palestinians, the Zionists are illegal aliens.

The Crusaders under Godfrey established a Christian state, the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem. It lasted ninety years. But it was never able to support itself, or defend itself without outside aid.

If Israel is to be considered a legitimate state today, it must demonstrate that they can support and defend themselves without US support. This implies that they must make peace with their neighbors. If that is impossible, then they don't belong in the neighborhood.

If they wish to be called democratic, they must give the vote and equal rights to all persons living under their rule including those in the Occupied Territories, and end ethnic and religious discrimination.

It makes no sense that people born there are denied the right to return to their homeland, while ready admission is offered to immigrants from Brooklyn who have never been there but just happen to be of the "right" religion. Such discrimination does not belong in the modern world.

The "people of the land" were there before the immigrating Israelites arrived. Read Judges 1. The Palestinians have a reasonable case to argue that the land was and is theirs. They were there before the Israelites invaded and genocided them. If Israel fails to make peace with them, the Palestinians will still be there in fifty years and Israel will not.

Answer 5

both already have land and the Palestinians refused a 2 state solution. they don't want land, they want Israel's land and to wipe them off the map.

Answer 6

Jewish culture, religion, and the Hebrew language are all native to Israel.

Arab culture, religion, and the Arabic language are all native to Arabia.

Answer 7

1- Israel try to switch the history of Palestine and allege that Palestine its land..
2-They kill,rape,straggle,deforce...using all wild ways
3-America supports Israel completely with all possible ways guided by bosh.
and much more points...
im looking 4 an answer but that wat i found.....just as main points

Answer 8

Shalom,
Along with obvious reasons stated already I would like to point out the fact that when Israel became a state the land was a wasteland desert! It was good for Nothing! The land was devestated, unfit even for goats.
http://www.jpdawson.com/ezekwar.html

But Today! -- The desire to transform the land, then barren and diseased-ridden -

All this is a far cry from the situation a century ago. When Jews began resettling their historic homeland in the late 19th century, their first efforts were directed towards reclaiming the mostly semi-arid land, much of which was rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. Rocky fields were cleared and terraces built in the hilly regions; swampland was drained, and systematic reforestation begun; soil erosion was counteracted, and salty land washed to reduce soil salinity.

Since Israel attained its independence in 1948,
The success of the country's agriculture stems from the determination and ingenuity of farmers and scientists who have dedicated themselves to developing a flourishing agriculture in a country which is more than half desert, thus demonstrating that the real value of land is a function of how it is used.
The fact that agricultural production continued to grow despite severe water and land limitations was no accident. It was the result of a unique Israeli phenomenon: the close and ongoing cooperation between researchers, extension workers, farmers and agriculture-related services and industries.

. As such, it is the primary driving force behind Israel's internationally-acclaimed agricultural achievements.

Numerous ARO developments, particularly in irrigation, arid zone agriculture and unique varieties of fruits, vegetables and ornamentals have been commercialized in Israel and abroad.

Dealing with subjects ranging from plant genetics and blight control to arid zone cultivation, Israel's agricultural R&D has developed science-based technologies, which have dramatically enhanced the quantity and quality of the country's produce.

The drive to achieve maximum yields and crop quality has led to new plant varieties, to breeding of improved animal species and to a wide range of innovations in irrigation and fertigation, machinery, automation, chemicals, cultivation and harvesting.

Israeli engineers and agriculturalists created the revolutionary drip system, which has reduced water consumption by 50-70% compared with gravity irrigation, and by 10-20% compared to sprinkler irrigation.

As a result, the amount of irrigated farmland has increased from 30,000 ha. in 1948 to some 192,000 ha. today.

Locally developed agrotechnologies include computerized fertigation, which injects fertilizer through the irrigation system, simple, gravity-based drip systems for developing countries, and advanced temperature and humidity control methods, which provide healthy environments for poultry, flowers, out-of-season vegetables and the like.

Export of Agricultural Inputs in 2000
(in millions of $US

Since 1948, the sparsely populated desert area between Be'er Sheva and Eilat (the Arava and the Negev) has played an important role in agricultural production. More than 40 percent of the country's vegetables and field crops are grown there, and 90 percent of the melons exported come from the Arava.

Until the 1990s, the accent was on field crops, vegetables, fruit and dates. These branches continue to expand in the Negev and the Arava. In addition, giant citrus groves (11,000 ha.) have been planted.
Plans to expand the growing of flowers, grapes for wine, olives for oil, cattle for meat, ostriches and fish are now being consolidated.

Desert agriculture is already playing an indispensable role in Israel's food economy. Learning from other countries, a large range of arid soil plants from Asia, Africa, Australia and the Americas has been introduced and tried out under local conditions, occasionally adapting and commercializing them.

Agricultural Production
(in percentages) according to location



Know-how on desert crop growing has become a focus for regional and international cooperation. Since the late 1950s, Israel has been sharing its agricultural expertise with scores of countries. MASHAV, the Center for International Cooperation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, is active in Asia, Africa, the Mediterranean Basin, Eastern Europe and Latin America as well as several Middle Eastern countries.

Agricultural projects and research collaboration constitute about half of Israel's international cooperation programs. Emphasis is placed on training courses in agricultural subjects, with some 1,400 participants from over 80 countries attending specialized courses in Israel every year, and thousands of trainees receiving on-the-spot training in their own countries. Since 1958, thousands of Israeli agricultural experts have been sent abroad on long- and short-term assignments.




Most of Israel's agriculture is organized on cooperative principles, which evolved in the country during the first decades of the 20th century. Motivated by both ideology and circumstances, the early pioneers set up two unique forms of agricultural settlements: the kibbutz, a collective community in which the means of production are communally owned and income is equally distributed; and the moshav, a co-operative village where each family maintains its own household and works its own land, while purchasing and marketing are conducted cooperatively. In recent years both systems have undergone vast ideological and structural changes, though they still account for the lion's share of productive crop-growing area. For example, in 1999 they accounted for three quarters of the total area producing crops.









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Agriculture by Branches

Fruit

The country's varied climatic, topographical and soil conditions have made it possible to grow a wide range of fruit. Thus the fruit sector is able to offer juicy citrus, creamy avocados, tangy kiwis and litchi, aromatic guavas and succulent mangoes from the orchards of the coastal plain, sweet bananas and honey-rich dates from subtropical areas and crisp apples, tasty pears and plump cherries ripened in the chilly air of the northern hills. The varied climate also enables fruit to be picked out of season, or at the beginning or end of a season, prolonging its appearance on the shelves.

Declining prices abroad, as a result of currency fluctuations, and a corresponding trend to reduce orchards, have been reflected in a continuous decline in export sales - from $278 million in 1996 to $192 million in 2000. The most marked decline has been in citrus, whose sales abroad plummeted by half during the period. This was reflected in a 16 percent reduction in citrus plantation areas. Recently the branch has also been hit by a shortage of laborers due to political events.

On the positive side, farmers have responded to all these obstacles by raising yields: they have established new plantations with varieties offering better yields; and have introduced the latest agrotechnology. For example, seven years ago the average yield of avocados was 70 kg per 1000 m2; today it is 1250 kg/1000 m2. Another, indirect indicator is that while the citrus sector's output dropped 16 percent in 2000, income fell only six percent.

The cultivation of vineyards, first promoted as a commercial enterprise at the beginning of the last century, has been expanded to include special varieties of grapes for a wide range of prize-winning red and white wines. These include grapes grown with saline water in desert conditions - a worldwide first.

Citrus, the country's oldest export sector, remains the third largest agricultural export, with 250,000 tons of oranges, pink and white grapefruits, lemons, pomelos and several varieties of easy-peeling tangerines, as well as concentrates, juices and other products, shipped abroad annually. Efforts are now being made to the develop new citrus varieties with smaller seed content, a longer shelf life, a pleasant appearance and a long marketing season.






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Vegetables

Growing vegetables has become an art in Israel - based on choosing the right hybrid varieties, fertilizers and irrigation methods, selecting greenhouse covers designed for specific crops and employing innovative growing tools, harvest equipment and post-harvest treatments. In recent years farmers have also been seeking profitable market niches. Examples are a big increase in production of organic produce, as well as specialties like herbs and selected mushrooms.

Vegetables account for about 17 percent of Israel's total crop output value. In 2000 the country's farmers produced some 1.2 million tons, of which 150,000 tons were exported; large quantities of processed vegetables are also exported. Technologically advanced methods are employed, including soil-less greenhouses with climate control systems. From 1990-1999 the area of greenhouses for vegetable cultivation was tripled, to 3000 hectares. While tomatoes growing in the open field reach yields of up to 80 tons per hectare, an average 200-300 tons can be grown in greenhouses under controlled climatic conditions. Israel exploits the sunshine and high temperatures to grow high-quality vegetables during the off-seasons of competitors abroad. In the last few years varieties of some crops, notably tomatoes and melons, have been adapted for growth in the desert with saline water irrigation. These are marketed under the brand name "Desert Sweet."






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Field Crops

About two-thirds of Israel's field crops are grown on un-irrigated land. These rained crops include wheat for grain and silage, hay, legumes for seeds and safflower for oil. The remainder is summer crops such as cotton, sunflowers, chickpeas, green peas, beans, corn, groundnuts and watermelon for seeds, mostly irrigated. With water in short supply, crop farmers have been concentrating, for the remaining land, on new varieties that produce the same or higher yields, with less or no irrigation. In addition, irrigation increasingly consists of treated sewage.

Wheat is the dominant crop in terms of acreage planted - 100,000 hectares, of which Bedouin farmers till some 20,000 ha. It is intended mainly for grain.

The scale of cotton planting fluctuates widely, depending on market prices. In 1998 some 31,000 ha. were planted; 9,500 ha. in 2000; and 15,400 ha. in 2001. Almost the entire cotton crop is drip irrigated, using mainly treated sewage. Seed cotton yields per unit of land are currently among the highest in the world, averaging 16 kg per hoof fiber for both the Ocala and Pima varieties. The entire crop is exported. In terms of sown area, Israel represents only a very small percentage, but in Europe it currently has a 20 percent market share of the Pima variety, and is increasingly switching to this variety. The sector is completely mechanized and each worker produces on average $100,000 worth of cotton annually.






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Dairy Farming

Dairy and beef herds account for 17 percent of the country's total agricultural production. Israel has for several years held the world record for milk production - 10,200 kilograms of 3.3 percent butterfat milk per cow. This is no accident, but reflects a number of complementary steps, each aimed at achieving maximum efficiency:


A careful breeding of cows that can cope with Israel's hot climate. The dairy herd consists entirely of Israel-Holstein, a high-yielding, disease resistant breed, developed through careful selection procedures. Breeding, based on computerized production data and genetic factors, is by artificial insemination; and since Israel has almost no grazing land, most of the herd's nutrition is based on a total-nutrient, barn-fed feed mix.


Feeding and milking the dairy herds by computerized programs, in order to determine feed composition ration according to stage of growth, milking and yield. Thus, for example, the farmer can determine the correct balance for a milk-yielding or a dry cow during the gestation period or develop a suitable diet for young calves. In addition, automated, computerized management systems - nowadays with wireless links to hand-held computers to ensure control while mobile - have been developed. These are able to monitor the individual cow's milk output per milking, warn of mastitis infection and even detect heat through counting the number of steps a cow takes. Computerized climate control systems for the dairy parlor are also widely used.

The sector supplies all of the country's dairy requirements. A surplus of butterfat is used to produce a wide variety of dairy products. Until the late 1990s production was regulated by a strict policy of planning and quotas. Today, the government is reducing the (regulated) prices on an annual basis, while encouraging small dairies to merge in order to cut production costs. These measures have reduced profitability and led to the closing, or merging, of some 300 small dairies.

The sheep and goat milk sectors have developed significantly in recent years, with a growing part of the cheeses produced earmarked for export.

The result of these advancements is that Israeli dairy know-how, equipment and experience are sought after worldwide. Sperm from locally proven bulls are in considerable demand abroad.

Other dairy-related exports include: heifers; computerized milking and feeding systems; cooling systems for dairies in hot countries; mini-dairies for milk processing; systems to recycle organic waste into cattle feed; and recycling systems for cattle manure. All this is provided by government agencies, consultancy firms and partnerships in international project development and, of course, the companies that produce the inputs and equipment.






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Poultry and Beef

Several years ago the US Department of Agriculture officially acknowledged the quality and standards of Israeli poultry, and in 1997 veterinary officials of the European Union granted Israel 'associate status' for poultry imports and exports. This means, de facto, that Israel's breeding methods, the level of veterinary services, veterinary legislation and independent supervision systems are regarded as being up to world standards.

Poultry sales, almost equally divided between broiler chickens and turkeys, are a major component of Israel's agriculture. Meat production increased almost 1.5-fold between 1976 and 2000, to 400,000 tons, and today its processed products are also an important industry. At home, per capita consumption of both eggs and poultry is among the highest in the world. This is reflected not just in a large and well-organized network of breeders and producers, but in the development, by local companies, of specialized equipment for the poultry industry. Breeders have concentrated on developing poultry breeds that are both heat- and disease-resistant, and which provide a high growth rate, high egg production and low-fat meat.

Eggs account for some 20 percent of the country's total poultry output. Average production of eggs for eating is 250 per layer. Annual meat yield per square meter of broiler house, over the course of five growing cycles, now reaches 150 kg.

Israel is the world's largest per-capita consumer of turkey meat and the industry represents a third of total meat output. Breeding and broiler farms, as well as meat processing, are fully automated. A high level of automation, strictly hygienic conditions and development of disease-resistant breeds contribute to high meat production. A wide variety of turkey products is exported, mainly to western Europe.

At 106,000 tons in 2000 - 62 percent of it imported - Israel's consumption of beef was only 29 percent of its consumption of poultry products. This pattern is partly habit, partly price-dictated. Pasture is a limiting factor in production, though efforts have been made to expand grazing areas by improving existing pastures and introducing different grasses and new grazing techniques. Between 1990 and 2000 the herd increase was 21 percent, while output increased from 50,000 tons to 80,000 tons. Most of this was a result of a lifting of government barriers on the import of live calves: some 28,000 were imported in 2000 compared with 26,000 in 1998.






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Aquaculture

Israel imports about two-thirds of the fish it consumes. Demand at home is steadily rising: from 11.7 kilograms per capita in 1994 to 13.4 kgs. in 2000, a 13 percent increase. Growing demand - both local and worldwide - is prompting Israel to step up fish production, especially in the arid southern part of the country, where brackish geothermal water can be used.

The 1990s saw the introduction of mariculture, a development that enabled a 25 percent increase in domestic breeding in the final decade of the 20th century.

Activities are in three focal points: fish growing in artificial ponds, including tilapia, mullet, carp, trout, bass and silver carp, mainly in the northern part of the country; salt water fish, including bass and sea-bream, raised in floating cages in the Mediteranean Sea and the Gulf of Eilat; and fresh-water fishing in Lake Kinneret.

One of the main water-thrifty pond methods currently being developed and rapidly increasing in volume is the use of covered ponds fed by oxygenation, with water passing to and from the ponds via a reservoir/bio-filter. Such systems have yielded production increases as high as 400% compared with open tanks. Equally impressive yields have been achieved in the Negev and the Arava, using covered 'bubble' or 'tent' systems. The warm, geothermal saline water is recycled from the fishponds to irrigate a variety of crops, from greenhouse tomatoes to cattle fodder.

In the light of the initial commercial successes, it appears that by promoting fish farming in the south using geothermal water sources, local production may be dramatically increased, thus lowering the current high demand for imported fish.






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Floriculture

Flowers are Israel's leading agricultural export (29 percent). Individual farms average less than a hectare and together occupy less than 2 percent of crop-producing land. These units are small by international standards and have hitherto been highly profitable, though depreciation of the shekel against the European currencies has sharply reduced income and profitability in recent years. The expertise of the farmers, backed by private and government research and development and field service supervision, contributes to the high quality and wide variety of flowers (over 100). These include cut flowers such as roses, gypsophila, carnations, solidago, limonium, gerbera, anemone, and ornamental plants.

The varieties include 'summer flowers' from Europe, acclimatized so that they can be picked and exported during Europe's winter season, and flowers indigenous to the southern hemisphere. Although the number of flower growers has fallen drastically in recent years, production has risen steadily to around 1.4 billion flowers a year. This is due to technological advances and an intensive system of production. About half of all the area devoted to flower growing consists of advanced, computerized greenhouses and some 12 percent of the area is under protective netting.

Today, some of the more innovative growers are connected on-line with the auctions and follow transactions in real time. Some are selling their flowers directly to buyers in the flower auctions of the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and elsewhere. Nevertheless, marketing as well as shipping are handled by a new private company - Aviv - and by the long-established joint government-growers export company Agrexco, which has special air and sea terminals in Israel and Europe and ensures quality and timely arrival at the markets. The Flower Production and Marketing Board provides each grower with daily results of sales.

Ornamental plants are a rapidly growing industry. In 2000 about $120 million worth of scores of different ornamental plants, either as rooted or un-rooted cuttings, or in pots in various stages of growth, were exported worldwide, predominantly to Europe. Most of these plants serve as the starting materials for European house- and garden plant nurseries, who may gain a season or even a year (and save a lot of energy) by having the initial stages of growth carried out in Israel's warmer climate. Much of this industry is based on person-to-person contractual arrangements. Once a distant second to citrus, export of flowers and ornamental plants now holds first place. With continuing R&D investment, export sales are likely to continue growing.

A combination of sophisticated, applied science, rugged determination and government support have helped Israel's farmers to modernize and adapt to changing geopolitical, market and climatic conditions, giving them a strong base from which to proceed in the coming decades.







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See also
facets of the israeli economy: agro-technology
advanced agriculture as a tool against desertification
israel's chronic water problem
agriculture: coping with growth