Liberals/Democrats....I understand the people want to help the poor, but.....???

Question

with 40% of our economy evaporated by taxes each year, why are there still homeless people? The democrats always say they will help people and get votes but I always see homeless people downtown and near interstates trying to bum a few bucks! Why do the politicians play with the good people's hearts, raise taxes and destroy the economy, and then still not even get a van to go around and pick up these people at night. It would be much cheaper than a bridge(which the private sector should build regardless) and I truly believe this is what the people want instead of wasting our dollar with pork barrel and politics! Is big government worth voting for? Do they really produce the outcome we are looking for? Why then has economic freedom been the answer to reducing infant mortality, longer life expectancy, higher income per family.....? It just seems to me that the liberals are brainwashed by leaders into thinking they are going to help poverty but do little to actually help! ~ Libertarian!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom

Actually the top 20% owns about 80% of the wealth! I have a link here that will help you understand this! What is funny is that no other country has as much money as we do! What's even funnier is that pulling down these rich people has only shown to hurt everyone in the country more and more! Not add to economic growth! National healthcare is a monopoly by government! Why can't we go back to the free market healthcare. The grass is not greener on the other side!

http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/faculty/hodgson/Courses/so11/stratification/income&wealth.htm
This website just has some statistics by liberals so it's not really made up by those dirty cons!

Kappalokka...you couldn't be more right! What happens today is conservatives and liberals so pissed at each other that they forget to do real research. Most of these people believe that the war is evaporating the most money when really it is social programs within our own country! These people do not stop to think about the truth, rather they have a Pavlonian response and immediately attack anything that isn't liberal or conservative! Scary!!!

Here is a pie chart that shows government spending!

Answer 1

While I agree with you, you have set yourself up to be lambasted by those that have opposing views.

What I am interested in is whether or not any of those opposing views will "debate" you with facts.

Many on here are very good at sarcastic (myself included) and berating answers. Few that actually address questions with reason and logic supported by facts.

It is almost like we try to intellectually kill our perceived enemies with words.

Believe me, it is frustrating regardless of whether you are the target or the person firing the words.

I wonder how much it would take for these bullets of words to degenerate into the real thing...you know, actually expressing well thought out arguments supported by facts...

I think that one of the best indexes as to a person's level of sanity (yes there are levels) is to what degree they are willing to change viewpoints based upon legitimate investigation.

I fear the person, liberal or conservative, that is incapable of changing their minds because they already KNOW what the truth is and therefore don't need to inspect and learn any longer.

Answer 2

Liberal and Democrat are not mutually inclusive.

I'd like to help the poor - but not by giving them money to be sure. I'd rather it come down from corporate America through jobs and opportunity. I'd like to see more corporate and civic intervention in the less-than-developed enclaves of our country. (That doesn't mean building new and shiny offices and stores that displace poor people, making them economic refugees.)

There's a difference between help and support.

As far as the homeless problem - most of our homeless people are mentally ill. That's where we, as a country, send them. Into the streets. I have no solution for that but I do find it overwhelmingly wrong that we support criminals on tax dollars, spending billions on them each year. I think a complete reworking of our penal system is long past due. It creates an entire underclass that will always be screaming for federal benefits even when released.

I'd imagine anyone you see standing at the interstate exits isn't homeless. Where would a homeless person get poster board and a Sharpie?

Have you ever gone out and aided a homeless person? Offered a blanket? Bought a meal for someone scrounging through the trash?

If vans were sent round every evening - where do you think they'd take people? Shelters are full. Do you want a tent community in your back yard? Does your neighbor? Would that in any shape or form solve the actual problem? uhh.. no. It would simply require more resources to do nothing.

I think perhaps you may be a bit brain-washed yourself.

Having more babies, reducing infant mortality, extending life spans - just increases the already difficult to deal with problems. More people living longer require more resources.

Population control. Reproductive rights. There are simply too many people on the planet, and until the general population gets a grip on that very basic, very simple fact - the problem of poverty will increase no matter who's in office.

There will never be economic equality between all people. Mankind is greedy and doesn't like to share with those he feels have not worked as hard as he has to gather and maintain wealth.

Midnight death squads, perhaps, Mr. Libertarian?

Answer 3

Why are there still homeless people? One partial reason is that our government in its wisdom (greed) decided to close down Federal mental institutions.

Other than that, most of your tax dollars are being spent, right or wrong, on defense. The figures on Google vary depending on where you look but some things are clear. The USA currently is spending well over 500 billion a year on military programs. This is more than the next 10 highest spenders combined.

The USA is also taking your tax dollars, spending on weapons systems, and then reselling the weapons and ammunition to other countries. Where's the profit? Ask the Bush family.

Bush Sr. armed Iran (illegally) and Iraq in the 80's, armed and trained the Taliban, and is now exporting more arms and ammo than ever before in history. You are buying the product with your taxes, but the profits go to well connected cronies.

It's all about profits for a few well connected families, and war is good for business. The US citizens are being screwed, and blaming the poor is absurd.

Answer 4

The other thing I find interesting (when you put your thinking cap on about this subject.) - That's to all the people I marked with a thumbs down.) is that the private sector is doing more to help the homeless people then the government has ever done.

Yes we need new Mental Health Facilities, but we need ones that treat these people with dignity and not degradation as those old facilities have done.

And I feel (Just look at the VA facilities) we need the private sector to build and run them. With the government helping to pay the cost for the people who don't have family to help pay for there continued care.

Answer 5

Most of those taxes are local taxes, that do little to help the poor.

I also believe that there a few people that actually want to be homeless, no matter what the government tried to do for them. It's a free country and their choice.

The war on poverty is still very honorable, and benefits many people.

Answer 6

The majority of homeless people, upwards of 80%, are homeless due to a mental illness. If we do not have reliable facilities for treating the mentally ill, such as universal healthcare, then any amounts of money will not reduce this number. Throwing money at the situation would only reduce the smaller percentage of homeless people who are homeless due to strictly financial reasons.

Answer 7

"with 40% of our economy evaporated by taxes each year, why are there still homeless people?"

because 100% of that 40% is being squandered by this administration on losing three wars simultaneously.

Answer 8

yes punishing the rich sounds good

95% of the wealth is in the hands of the top 5%... the rest of us fight over 5% of our countries money.....

the middle class gets most of that 5 percent and the poor have nothing,,,,, yay,,, equality and justice for all


your stats were 5 years ago....
also 1 percent owns 40% of the worlds wealth....

Answer 9

Do you mean wasting 321 billion on a war for nothing.

Answer 10

They don't really want to help the poor, they just want to punish the rich.