it seems as if the rate of feminists is falling.......?

Question

i have read articles an seen in many papers that feminism is getting less and less influential and acknowledged. it is seen as a hate group by many and people steer away from it. why do you think this is?

while feminism IS declining women are still reamaining independent and strong and are proud to be either or both a working woman or housewife. women are dropping there feminist ideology and getting more in touch with there femininity but realize at the same time that men and women are equal but different. frankly im glad. i know almost no feminists and the ones i do know are hard nosed. but what do you think about the decline in feminism?

baba yaga: women do not just not want to be labeled as a feminazi. its that they are not agreeing with the ideology its self. its seen as hypocritical and hateful towards men. i for example got in to womens studies to learn about feminism and see what it was all about. i thought at first that it could be a good thing. however i know now that its not about equality. its about double standards for there benefit. you can be strong and independent without having to label yourself

baba yaga: i did not use those words to sexualy humiliate you. i said them because you seem to highly dislike men. and i said that cause you provoked me. but of course you didnt post what you said. instead you used my words out of context. you manipulate peoples words and destroy the meaning of them and find away to use them against the person. i know because i like to do the same. i am a manuipulator to. however i know that some statements that i have made effected you negatively. i know because you have used the same words against me over and over

Answer 1

I took a women's studies course (Women in Literature) too, wanting to know more about it because my wife is a feminist.

I agree that, historically, women have been disenfranchise in many ways and I believe that things such as votes for women and greater awareness of these issues are positive. I would not be proud to live in a society that oppressed any group based on gender.

At the same time, gender status may have evolved as it has for particular reasons. It may be that societies in which women had fewer rights were able to out-reproduce those in which women had more rights. I would be interested to know whether birthrates and women's rights are inversely or directly correlated.

This could be one of many situations where survival ability, the evolutionary measure of success, goes against what we consider civilized or morally desirable. But I'm sure it is arguable either way.

I agree that many women have become disenchanted with the 'feminist' label and are more inclined of late to identify with particular causes than with such a global and much-maligned movement. In fact this is true of many so-called 'feminists' throughout history.

Answer 2

You're making claims about feminists and feminism, and state that the "rate of feminists may be falling", but you also admit that "i know almost no feminists" and the ones you do are "hard-nosed". Ever hear of the self-fulfilling prophecy? where you make an assumption or believe a stereotype and do whatever you can to make sure you are right? You don't know anyone that you like that is a feminist...now I"m curious, are there any women that like you? and what are they like? do you talk like this around the women you know?

Since feminism is basically all about choice, the choice to work at home or at a workplace, regardless of gender, you've admitted that many (American) women (and men) now think that way. So it doesn't sound like feminism is declining at all, from your own description, rather, it's an integral part of American society. So it's quite inaccurate to say that feminism is a "hate group", if the majority of Americans agree with the feminist philosophy of equal choice/rights. Rather, it sounds like those people who don't believe women or men should have a choice, that believe that women should be forced to stay in their homes, and believe that men should be forced to only support families, are the true "hate group" in our society.

Answer 3

While I think of myself as a feminist it might not be the same idea of a feminist as someone else would think. I don't go bra burning or things like that, but I have grown up from an era that use to and if need be I won't hesitate to do so. I believe that now a days feminist ideas are more incorporated in our lives. The majority of children grow up knowing that men and women are equal. I believe we have both moved forward and yet backwards in some sense. We have moved forward in the way that was mentioned above. Yet we have moved slightly backwards because there are still discriminatory actions out there. There is still a glass ceiling when it comes to some of women's right that is more sly than it use to be. People are more tricky than before. I believe equality is much better than it was. Women still need to be very careful to make sure not to slump back into where they once were. Also I think many girls are scared to stand up for there beliefs in fear of being called a b*tch, it would do a lot of good to have some of the enthusiasm women once had on the subject. We can't just sit back because we're scared of a label.

Answer 4

Your statement is about as accurate as saying "Black Pride groups have no more political clout at all because they aren't the same as they were 30 years ago".
Aye Que Ridiculo!
The solution to every societal problem that has been overcome started out as EXTREMELY radical in order to get the attention of the "sleeping Masses".Feminists have moved and evolved as necessary.
True Humanists and Feminists are tired of being called names by the likes of Rush Limbaugh--Silly Boy that he is. He's achieved his goal of frightening off many women from the Movement through his lies, innuendo and phallic fantasies.
He and his buddies are not the omega.There's a whole wonderful generation of men and women who have been raised by parents with Higher consciousnesses. They will be the dominant group in society within the next 50 years or so.
I think it's the little NeoCon wannabes who are on their way out.
Good luck.

Answer 5

The media and the Right have warped feminism into a culturekampf of — as my dad puts it — angry, radical, nut-cutting lesbians. (By the way, my dad is all for gender equality. He just had some bad experiences with university feminists, and he's slightly bitter about it.) Egalitarian feminism, the kind that you're speaking of, is on the rise, but supremacist feminism is fading. I am happy to be a strong and independent women, but I still choose to wear the feminist label.

Answer 6

This is totally an opinion and not really based on anything other than personal experience. But I think that feminism as most people think about it, is extremely inconvenient for women. It is like the saying "chivalry is dead, and women killed it". They complain all the time about not being treated equally (which is a valid complaint and I believe that they should be treated completely equal in all things). But stuff started happening like they entered the work place, got high paying jobs, then wanted to have kids and realized that missing half a year of work or more because of pregnancy was less than popular with the bosses. Things like guys not opening doors for them anymore, or not paying for all the dates, stuff like that. If women are going to be completely equal, make them enlist in the selective service or do away with maternity leave since men dont have the option of taking half a year off with partial pay because they choose to (yes pregnancy is a choice). I think that we all need to recognize that there are certain differences, and I think that women are finally starting to realize that they might not have things as bad as they originally thought.

Also just the fact that men and women are treated pretty much equally now makes the need for femenist demonstrations a lot lower since the public is pretty aware and there have been a lot of positive changes. Same reason there are not a ton of Vietnam War protesters around, it just inst as much of an issue anymore haha. And thats my humble opinion.

Answer 7

You look honest. I have not have been given any project with you. as long as a feminist is honest to the two factors we are able to be friends. There are some females who look to think of that the females are continuously precise. it fairly is as sexist because of the fact the adult adult males who try this. We should not be at each and each others throats. i could be a feminist's buddy even regardless of the indisputable fact that i don't trust you on many stuff. Heck, I fairly have friends who're democrats.

Answer 8

Yes, the crazy feminists are in decline because women have so many rights (and extra rights in the form of "formalities") that it's getting to the point where it's out of hand. "Good" feminism may be on the horizon, but from what Dierdre and hundreds of others out there are talking about (third wave feminism), it appears to instead be turning toward wacky (but not necessarily "bad") feminism. I say "wacky" because it is associating itself with those "post-modernist" things that relate to cultural relativism, nothing is inherently good or bad, and the like.

It seems that feminism will either die out and become a relic of a crazy era, or it will continue as an even crazier ideology.

Answer 9

I would like to see some proof behind this hypothesis. Feminism is evolving and changing and there are far to many different aspects that I find this difficult to believe especially with no proof.
Third-wave feminism seeks to challenge or avoid what it deems the second wave's "essentialist" definitions of femininity, which (according to the third wave) often assumed a universal female identity and over-emphasized the experiences of upper middle class white women. A post-structuralist interpretation of gender and sexuality is also central to much of the third wave and helps to account for its heightened emphasis on the discursive power and fundamental ambiguity inherent in all gender terms and categories. Third wave theory usually encompasses women-of-color consciousness, post-colonial theory, critical theory, transnationalism, ecofeminism, and new feminist theory. I find that you are just using this question as an excuse to try and argue you own point when there is no concrete statistical proof to back it up. You are also using this forum to harass and argue with others. This is oppressive and appalling,

Third wave feminists often focus on "micropolitics," writing about forms of gender expression and representation that are less explicitly political than their predecessors. They also challenged the second wave's paradigm as to what is, or is not, good for females.
You have also openly admitted to attempting to manipulate peoples opinions in your post, and this is the proof to what I have stated earlier in my answer.

Answer 10

There are certain issues that must still be addressed, but perhaps women are tired having both men and feminists tell them what to do.