That's what crazy liberal doush Rosie O'donald beleives. I just saw it in the news, however I was just curious if this oppinion reflects on the views of most Americans. I belive she was protesting the treatment of inmates at Guantanamo.
What do you think? Do we have an obligation to obtain information from terrorist by any means necessary, may it be torture?
*Notice** I am specifically speaking about terrorist, people we know beyond a reasonable dought are involed or linked with global terrorisim, are they human too? Do they deserve the same rights me and you would receive in prison?
2007-03-15
19:12:10
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*doubt* Typo sry...
2007-03-15
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Do we not know the 'blind sheik' is a terrorist? Osama Bin Laden? Are they not beyond a doubt terrorist?
2007-03-15
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We don't have any obligation to treat them as citizens of the United States. Plain and simple, they are prisoners of war. They do not receive the right to a speedy trial and the many other things citizens of the US can have.
As far as the human thing is concerned, of course they are. They have emotion - ability to choose right and wrong, and all the other characteristics of being human. They are just extremely evil people that need to be eliminated from this Earth.
2007-03-15 19:16:58
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answered by metsfan259 2
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Terrorists are human, they are just socialized differently than you or I. And they must be treated as laws state, which according to agreement in the international community they must be treated by the standards given in the Geneva Conventions.
When you were born you were told what was right and what was wrong. In another society what is right and wrong can be something entirely different.
It is all based in the fact that socialization (the process by which a species learns to adopt the behavior patterns of the community in which they live.) of a people or group of people determines what is right or wrong.
To them, what they are doing is good, even if it does produce harm to the other group (which in turn thinks it's bad). However, on an international level, it is uniformly understood that terrorism isn't an eccepted practice.
Data should be acquired through peaceful and unharmful means, due to the nation (The United States and other Western Nations) trying not to stoop to the same level as our enemies. To stoop to our enemies level is merely becoming terrorists ourselves, which is not acceptable.
2007-03-15 19:36:12
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answered by angellove21 3
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But that's part of the problem ... we don't always know "beyond a doubt". That's only one of the reasons I'm against the USA using torture as a standard, particularly when we are outsourcing it.
I believe we should follow the International Humanitarian Law treated by the Geneva Convention.
When the USA thinks it's above the Geneva Convention, it means Uncle Sam has gotten too big for his britches.
2007-03-15 21:06:48
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If you had some American citizens in there it might be different but you dont so it smacks of double standards
David Hicks is an Australian citizen we are supposed to be your allies so charge him with something if Americans were held without trial we would here the whinging all the way from Australia.
Also the IRA are also terrorists that were supported by many Americans double standards once again.
2007-03-15 19:40:58
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answered by molly 7
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This is the classic "do the ends justify the means" question. Can we beat one suspected terrorist to death if it means extracting information that will save millions?
Well, this crazy conservative prick says no. Even though our Constitution is specifically for U.S. Citizens I think as a courtesy we should extend the Constitutional order and procedure to trying terrorists that are not citizens of our country. I also think we should observe any and all international treaties and agreements we signed in regards to the welfare of accused criminals.
So I think no, we don't have the right let alone the obligation to obtain information from terrorists by torture. They should be extended the same rights as you and me. They should have a speedy trial, and if it shows that they did commit a crime against the United States let them sit behind bars at Guantanamo Bay for the rest of their miserable natural lives.
2007-03-15 19:28:41
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answered by Joel S 3
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I think we all need to look at the way we live compared to the way the rest of the world lives and then define terrorism. I think these terrorists believe they are part of a social revolution by a world that had left them behind. Some of our own bullying and policies could be interpreted as a sort of economic terrorism. Although I have no sympathy for individuals that would commit these sort of atrocities instead of demonizing these individuals as sub-human we truly do need to try to understand the way they think and why they think that way in order to make this a safer world for us all.
2007-03-23 18:08:46
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answered by Serena L 2
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Dude, your credibility went down the toilet with that "reasonable dought." Learn ELEMENTARY English, then ask something. Until then, you will probably be deciding who has to wear a yellow band around the arm because you and the retarded president know beyond reasonable DOUBT (that's what it's called, moron) that they are guilty. By that behavior, you are exactly the same as the terrorist you claim to hate.
Sieg Heil!
2007-03-15 19:33:03
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answered by Anonymous
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Technically I guess they could be considered human on the outside. But they deserve death on the spot of being found guilty of terrorism. To call someone who deliberately kills as many people as they can because of the victims COUNTRY'S religion or politics is a bit of a stretch.
I bet, no I know, she would refuse an offer to go to Guantanamo to meet these "people" she loves so much. Just like how she thinks that no one should own firearms, yet has body guards with sub-machine guns.
2007-03-15 19:59:07
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes they are people... just people who commit mass murder. I do not agree with gathering information through torture. If you want someone to say something, and you torture them enough, they will usually say it. It is a good source of false information and unusable evidence. Sure you get a lot of truth out of the whole mess but what is true and what isn't?
Besides, what ever happened to all men are created equal. I don't see any reason why these people cannot be sent to trial and found to be guilty or innocent. If they are guilty, hold them until the end of the war, if they are innocent let them go. What would we say if a country started holding US citizens without trial or evidence basing there justification in this same law. I will tell you what we would say, that is who we attack next.
2007-03-15 19:17:17
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answered by Memnoch 4
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All humans are equal. Americans or Non-americans. The inmates in Guantanamo are suspected terrorist. Why they are held without any charge????
Americans are civilized people and should treat others in a civilized way. Everybody has right of opinion.
2007-03-23 06:04:58
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answered by MAK 2
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