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Machiavelli gave everyone the chance to speak their mine & Plato...I forgot what Plato did! Just kiddin' he wrote a book called The Republic.

2007-03-15 14:53:34 · answer #1 · answered by ? 2 · 0 0

"If The Prince was Machiavelli's textbook on a monarchy, his Discourse on the First Ten Books of Titus Livy (which comprise the early history of Rome) is a paean to the republic. The Discorsi is a series of lessons on how a republic should be started, structured , including the concept of checks and balances, the strength of a tripartite structure, and the superiority of a republic over a principality, are as valid today as they were six centuries ago and clear applications of his practical political philosophy can be found in the governments of many democracies today."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli

" The state:
Plato's philosophical views had many societal implications, especially on the idea of an ideal state or government. There is some discrepancy between his early and later views. Some of the most famous doctrines are contained in the Republic during his middle period, as well as in the Laws and the Statesman. However, because Plato wrote dialogues, it is assumed that Socrates is often speaking for Plato. This assumption may not be true in all cases.

Plato, through the words of Socrates, asserts that societies have a tripartite class structure corresponding to the appetite/spirit/reason structure of the individual soul.

Productive (Workers) — the labourers, carpenters, plumbers, masons, merchants, farmers, ranchers, etc. These correspond to the "appetite" part of the soul.
Protective (Warriors or Auxiliaries) — those who are adventurous, strong and brave; in the armed forces. These correspond to the "spirit" part of the soul.
Governing (Rulers or Guardians) — those who are intelligent, rational, self-controlled, in love with wisdom, well suited to make decisions for the community. These correspond to the "reason" part of the soul and are very few. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato

2007-03-15 15:41:29 · answer #2 · answered by Psyengine 7 · 0 0

1) Plato is a name that when it pops up people get an 'idea' of wisdom and grace that has made a great impact on society on many continents for these thousands of years.
Plato, the Athenian philosopher, had done a lot of traveling during his youth, later he founded a school, known as the Academy (from which we get our word, "academic,")

Today our government has some roots in Plato's work, the Republic, which blends ethics, political philosophy, moral psychology, epistemology, and metaphysics into an interconnected and systematic philosophy.

Readers of a Platonic dialogue are drawn into thinking for themselves about the issues raised, if they are to learn what the dialogue itself might be thought to say about them. Many of his works therefore give their readers a strong sense of philosophy as a living and unfinished subject (perhaps one that can never be completed) to which they themselves will have to contribute.

2) Machiavelli has given birth to a form of techniques employed to gain an objective, mainly deceitful practices of lies and misrepresentation. Today we hear of the term Machiavellian intelligence (also known as political intelligence or social intelligence) relating to corruption.

Machiavelli's political philosophy (ideas on government) was startling. It was different from medieval ideas about the proper duties, obligations and policies of good rulers.
Where did Machiavelli get such ideas? Clearly not from the Bible. Nor did they come from the ancient Greek ( Athenian) philosophers who stressed the well-being of the entire community and the rule of law. His best sources were the rulers he observed--Franciesco Sforza, Lorenzo do Medici, and above all, Cesare Borgia. The biographies of these men reveal them to be powerful, tricky, and often dishonest. Some historians question whether or not Machiavelli was really as amoral (without standards of right and wrong) as he sounds. Perhaps he was actually making fun of men like Borgia and exposing the extremes to which they would go to keep themselves in power. Whatever his purpose the adjective Machiavellian" has come to mean unscrupulous, amoral, tricky, and manipulative.

Enjoy the process of discovering the value of history :)

2007-03-15 14:59:10 · answer #3 · answered by mabzar 2 · 0 0

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