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I have given my baby guppies the medication for ick, and my babies are laying on the bottom of my tank. They did have white spots on them. Is this normal?

2007-03-15 11:36:00 · 7 answers · asked by aajk 2 in Pets Fish

7 answers

If they're laying on bottom then something is definitly wrong! They're sick or dying. You need to call the store where you bought them. they could probably help. They could have been sick when you bought them too. The store would probably give you more if it hasn't been too long since you bought them!

2007-03-15 11:43:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Sounds like dropsy. Take a close look and see if the scales are sticking out. This comes from a couple different sources, too much food, the wrong food, and poor water quality. The bad news is fish don't usually recover. Stop feeding the fish for a while (couple days or so) and go to a good fish store to see if they have swim bladder treatment.

2007-03-15 12:18:22 · answer #2 · answered by Alex 2 · 0 1

No that is not normal at all if your fish has white spots
on them u need to take it to the doc..........
And if your fish is laying on the bottom your fish is
dead so go to the DOCTOR RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!
PEACE

2007-03-15 13:25:11 · answer #3 · answered by kaijajade5 1 · 0 0

If you do see white spots it could be ich. However which medicine did you use to treat the tank? Also, did you remember to remove your filters prior to treating? Did you treat the tank for more than one day?

Here is more about ich and how to treat it:

Is it white spot disease or is it Ich? You need to know the difference between the two since they are treated differently.

Cryptocaryoniasis, White Spot Disease or Marine Ich is caused by an infestation of the ciliated protozoan Cryptocaryon irritans. Although Cryptocaryon becomes a parasitic organism at one stage in its life cycle like Oodinium and Brooklynella do, and it progesses less rapidly than these other ich diseases, in a closed aquarium system it can reach overwhelming and disasterous numbers just the same if it is not diagnosed and treated upon recognition.

Unlike Oodinium and Brooklynella that typically attack the gills first, which allows these ich diseases to advance into life-threatening levels quickly as they go unnoticed, Cryptocaryon usually appears at the onset as salt-sized white spots visible on the body and fins of a host fish, and when the organisms become parasitic, it is then that they move inwards to the gills. Because crypto is more easily recognized in its beginning stage, this makes it much easier to treat and cure before it gets out of control.

Aside from the appearance of the white spots, fish will scratch against objects in an attempt to dislodge the parasites, and rapid respiration develops as tomonts, mucus, and tissue debris clogs the gills. Fish become listless, refuse to eat, loss of color occurs in patches or blotches as the trophonts destroy the pigment cells, and secondary bacterial infections invade the lesions caused by the trophonts.

Although copper is very effective on Oodinium, and it works well to eliminate crypto organisms in their free-swimming tomite stage, it is not as effective on the Cryptocaryon trophonts that burrow deeply into the tissues of fish. A combination of freshwater and formalin treatments adminstered by means of dips, baths, and prolonged treatment over a period of time in a QT is recommended

Reinfection will occur no matter how effectively the fish have been treated if Cryptocaryon is not eradicated from the main aquarium, which can be accomplished by keeping the tank devoid of any fish for at least 4 weeks. For fish-only aquariums hyposalinity can be applied, and to speed up the life cycle of the organisms, elevate the tank temperature to 85 degrees for 10 days to 12 days. For treating reef tanks, FishVet No-Ich Marine, Ruby Reef Kick-Ich, and Chem-Marin Stop Parasites are Cryptocaryon specific remedies that are said to be "reef safe". Several days prior to returning fish to the main aquarium, clean all filtering equipment, change any filtering materials, and do a water change.

Remember to remove all filters media and turn off protein skimmers when treating for any types of Ich.

Although many over-the-counter remedies contain the general name Ich or Ick, carefully read the product information to be sure it is designed to specifically target and treat "Cryptocaryon"

Brooklynella hostilis - these protozoa reproduce asexually by means of simple binary fission through conjugation, which is why they are able to multiply so much more rapidly than Cryptocaryon (White Spot), and Oodinium (Velvet Ich), and why it can kill fish within a few days and even hours upon recognition

Most similar symptomatically to Oodinium, this too is a parasite that primarily attacks the gills first. At the onset fish may scrap up against objects, rapid respiration develops, and fish often gasp for air at the surface as the gills become clogged with mucus. Fish become lethargic, refuse to eat, and colors fade, but the most noticeable difference that sets Brooklynella apart from Oodinium is the heavy amount of slime that is produced. As the disease progresses a thick whitish mucus covers the body, usually starting at the head and spreading outward, skin lesions appear, and it is not uncommon for signs of secondary bacterial infections to arise.

Suggestions range from copper, malachite green and other remedies, with some recommended being used in conjunction with formaldehyde. However the general consensus is these types of medications are either largely ineffective or do not work at all, and that the best and most effective treatment for Brooklynella is formaldehyde alone. Typically a standard 37% formalin solution (shop & compare prices) is mixed with either fresh or saltwater in a separate treatment container, initially all fish are given a quick dip or a prolonged bath, followed by continued treatment and care in a QT. Of course the longer fish are exposed to the formalin treatment, the more effective it will be at eliminating this "disease". Whether to administer a dip or a bath to start with is something you will have to determine yourself, but there's a very simple way to do this.

Since these are Free swimming parasites which are in watersources, come attached to our fish etc. The only way to ensure NO ICH is to get a UV Sterilizer and addit to the tank. The UV Sterilizer kills the free swimming forms of various ich and other parasites.

Hope this helps


Also, do not add salt or raise the temperatures. Since your fish are already stressed you don't need to add more. Heat and salt do not kill ich, no matter what you hear. The salt levels needed in your tank would kill the fish before even affecting the parasite.

2007-03-15 23:52:41 · answer #4 · answered by danielle Z 7 · 1 0

They aren't sick. This happened to my betta fish once. He got white spots all over him and then he shortly died after. Sorry! I know what you are going through!

2007-03-15 14:09:58 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I am sorry to tell you this but they are dying

2007-03-15 14:27:11 · answer #6 · answered by PickyVeggiePup 2 · 0 0

I think the meds are stressing them.

2007-03-16 06:34:58 · answer #7 · answered by Sunday P 5 · 0 0

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