Women Prisoners Released; Space to be Used for Men's Prisons. Thoughts?

Question

I'm curious what the response is to this article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=442113&in_page_id=1770

To summarize, a UK government report is seeking to have female criminals released from prison, even killers, and put into more friendly "family units." It contains some interesting quotes:

Lady Corston, formerly chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party, sought to justify the shake-up by claiming custody is "disproportionately harsher" on women.

And this:

The report claims: "Women and men are different. Equal treatment of men and women does not result in equal outcomes."

So what would the feminist response to this be? Lady Corston claims that it's justifiable because female criminals are DV victims, and that treating men and women equally produces unequal results. Assuming it's true, is the former justified? The latter? Let's hear some thoughts.

Husky, are you familiar with the old robot saying "DOES NOT COMPUTE"? How can you have an ideology that supports such a glaring contradiction? That makes no sense whatsoever.

And Tricia, that has nothing to do with anything, and it certainly does not answer my question.

Otherwise, good answers so far. I like the simplicity of "sexual discrimination" since this is like a dictionary definition for it. Not sure why someone voted that down when it's essentially spot-on.

Carrie, please read the question a bit closer. A woman, formerly a government official, is justifying it. Try not to jump to conclusions so quickly (although I know asking that of a feminist is a tall order).

Answer 1

Your question was, "what would the feminist response be?"

The answer is silence.

The whole proposition is an embarrassing admission that for many classes of feminists (thank you, Husky), their goal is not sexual equality but sexual privilege. This goal must remain tacet, however, as it is blatently undemocratic. The demand for sexual privilege is premised upon the supposition of a "patriarchal" bias against women. This premise is threatened when it is publicly demonstrated that women traditionally have been, and continue to be, perceived as being exempt from accountability for their actions--a perception completely antithetical to the necessary premise that women are discriminated against.

This absurd proposal will be quietly buried, to the relief of both "sides."

Answer 2

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Answer 3

One factor of which you may not be aware is that there is almost no concern about women escaping from custody. The reason is that the vast majority of women in prison have minor children, and if they escape, they know that they will not regain custody of their children. In Minnesota about 20 years ago, there was one women's prison, Shakopee, and it was very old and falling apart. The outer wall had huge holes in it. They told the women not to go through the holes in the wall, and no one did.
And security is the biggest cost of incarceration. So I'm assuming that the more friendly "family units" are low security and therefore much less expensive. That's probably the real reason for this change.

Answer 4

People obviously don’t understand what feminism is….

The Feminization of Difference (Men and women are different and both should be treated fairly) and The Feminization of Equality (men and women are the same and both should be treated fairly - (my ideology)) are too different things. Both adhere to feminist ideology, but they constitute two interpretations. Contrary to popular belief – feminism is not one ‘big’ idea that some academics adhere to. It is, like all social theory, a word to denote the classification of various theories on gender's relationship to society.

Consider the various branches of feminist ideology;

Ecofeminism
Afeminism
Biological Feminism
Structural functionalist feminism
Anarcho-Feminism
Political Feminism
Womanism
Marxism Feminism
Christian Feminism
Cultural Feminism

Let’s not forget the new 'Gender Inquiry theory', which constitutes an adoption of both feminism and masculinism, arguing that both serve equality but view the relationship from the eyes of their respective genders.

My question to you, then, original poster, is which feminist response are you referring to?

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I'm trying to tell you that its not 'one' ideology. Look at the debate between Christina Hoff-sommers, an 'equity feminist', and some of the mainstream 'gender feminists', such as Jennifer Pozener. (Christina is the author of the book - "The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men".)


As far as your 'contradiction statement' is concerned - look at
Christianity.

Both Protestant and Catholicism are christian teachings - but they have fundamental differences.

Both Marxism and Keyanism are structural theories, but they have fundamental differences.

Both the feminization of differences and the feminization of equality are feminist theories, but they have fundamental differences.

Feminism is not one movement - it is a classification of gender theories, many of which share the same name, but many of which are also contradictory.

Answer 5

This is my personal feminist response: We don't live in a feminist world. Far f*cking from it. Gender roles and assumptions still exist. You want to know why women are always regarded as peaceful beings who can do no wrong? Because that's patriarchy's view. And it's a view that is still prevalent. You can bet your a*s that the ones who made this decision were probably men, or influenced by men.

Answer 6

Men's "Correctional Facilities" (aka Prison) only fuel the men's desires for their crimes (give them new ones to foster) and take away his hopes. Prison's are failing and need to be revamped --- PERIOD.

Answer 7

I think some of them ladies been sleepin with Lord Corston

did you see the smile on his face?

now he is lettin em all out of jail

Answer 8

Sexual discrimination.

Answer 9

Why the silence from feminists?

And they wonder why their are not believed when they claim they want equal treatment.

Answer 10

Bunch of little hoes.

Another proof men are being oppressed too. (feminists say men aren't oppressed)

This is hardly fair.