US TORTURE?who thinks 'water boarding' is a form of torture?

Question

so apparently the 'confession' of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was given 'without duress' (Abc News), however the CIA abmits he was subject to water boarding a torture in which the victim is hung upside down with water flowing over their head, to induce the feeling of drowning, now im not saying he's innocent but i'm also certainly not implying that a 'confession' obtained under such circumstances can be considered to be 'without duress'. take the situation in Zimbabwae where opposition leaders have been beaten, this is torture, however i would suggest that being subjected to a drowning sensation for several minutes is also torture and of a worse kind then being beaten. i would rather be beaten then made to feeling like i was drowning. Shame on the US in the quest for 'freedom and democracy' the US govt has lost all sense of right and wrong and lowered themselves to the level of tyranical rygemes such as the taliban, Rober Mugabe, and so on. Has the US govt no morals.

Common S and M B. you miss the point entirely I am not sayign 9/11 was good or justified, or anything like that but torturing people doesn't get real information. Imagine I grabbed you of the street, locked you up for 5 years with no human contact, defiled whatever it is you hold to be holy, then played you the soundtack to the sound of music 50,000 times whilst depriving you of sleep, whilst constantly interogating you for all this time and telling you you're worthless and a terrorist, before finally subjecting you to horrific torture, whilst all the time telling you it could all be over if you just signed this? would you like it? would you think it was fair? the point is not what he may or may not have done, the point is that measure such as these ARE WRONG in all circumstances, and will not give reliable information, people will confess to anything if you subject them to enough. many innocent men have been realeased after horrndus ordeals. it is very naive to trust the US gov onthis

Answer 1

I think you need to stop and think before you say "Shame on the US". Not all of us agree with what is going on. Actually most of us do not. However, I do agree with you on the fact that Certain Americans have sunk to a new low. The part that is really sad is that US media (CNN etc.) only portray certain things. Meaning, they are not showing anything positive that comes from the Middle East. It is almost always just showing the negative. Which is how we got into this whole mess to begin with. Using 9/11 to their advantage the US was strategically lied to so that we would want to go to war. Now as we all know hind sight is always 20/20. Unfortunately we have people in office that are a few sandwiches short of a picnic, so now the Geneva Convention is obsolete unless it pertains to our troops. Which is sad it should pertain to all. My other big issue is that some (not all) of these men who are "confessing" or being held are not even terrorists. America is supposed to be the place that everyone wants to come to. This is supposed to be the greatest nation on earth (which personally i find arrogant), but can anyone say Roman Empire?

Answer 2

for sure that's torture. some thing it truly is so physiologically ugly and psychologically scary that it motives human beings as an instance options that they have got SWORN OATHS ON THEIR LIVES that they are going to not in any respect reveal forever should be torture. yet that's no longer truly the priority. The CIA and severe authorities officials do and approve of all forms of stuff that we do not learn about each of the time. issues that are not criminal or Constitutional. yet we do not learn about it. the finest argument in want of torture is this: The structure prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. Waterboarding is cruel and unusual, and obviously torture, in spite of the undeniable fact that that's no longer punishment. that's a attitude to collecting options. Minor technicality, in spite of the undeniable fact that that's more beneficial useful than the different argument in help of it. i do not help torture therefore: Bush has signed legislations giving the President (and a committee he on my own selects) the authority to droop habeas corpus for whomever, even if a citizen of the U.S. or no longer. So in spite of if torture isn't "punishment," we've already allowed our authorities to brush aside the Constitutional concepts that guard effortless electorate from tyrannical practices that could want to comprise torture. and then there is that total Geneva Conventions hypocrisy issue.

Answer 3

The NeoCons have sunk way way below any despicable character from history you can conjure up. Bush makes Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot look like Manny, Moe and Jack...the pep boys.

According to Rumsfeld and Cheney "water boarding" is like a trip down a water slide...why would that be torture?

Answer 4

Gee, and the 9/11 events were just harmless pranks ?

Answer 5

Our priority should be defending the US from future terror attacks- if this method gets us the needed information, so be it...