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George Bush Sr said "Athiests are not Patriots and should not be Americans, after all this is "One Country Under God" " (quote from Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion")." This ENRAGED me!! What happened to any race, creed, color , religion etc?

2007-03-15 05:47:27 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Other - Cultures & Groups

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Don't believe the hype.
Atheists, to their own thoughts, are constantly persecuting christians, for having values and morals...while atheists, on the other hand, believe there is no God, and in the great statement, shouldn't have to follow other people's beliefs.
By that standard, if we truly wanted to persecute Atheists, we could force them to accept prayer in schools, the pledge of allegience, and other God-knowing issues....instead, we've ripped God out of our schools, discriminating against chuch-going people, everywhere.
You see, the biggest problem on the map, is that if you discriminate against one type, and try to fix it, you discriminate against another group....fair, ain't it?

2007-03-15 05:52:58 · answer #1 · answered by steveraven 3 · 0 0

I don’t really think atheists are a persecuted people, for one reason. Atheists, with Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and other intellectuals being the rare exception, are a fairly quiet group of people. Outside of their collective disbelief in God, not much else, politically, culturally, or socially binds them as a cohesive unit. Since they cannot be conceived of, in any great degree, as a singular unit with a goal, and since most are reticent to speak out publically about their disbelief, very little persecution, if any really transpires.

However, I believe atheists should speak up, and in the same manner as Dawkins, lambast religion that is left unfettered by the strictures of reason. Yes, this insistence on being vocal about dissent towards religion could elicit persecution, but religion left to its own devices is something far more fearsome.

2007-03-16 12:05:49 · answer #2 · answered by Lawrence Louis 7 · 1 0

George Bush, I hope, is not a typical American. He seems to be ignorant of the constitution of his country.
In any case, over the centuries, the whole question of equality of race, colour, creed, tetc. has been pretty much ignored wherever people could get away with ignoring it.
To call atheists persecuted people, though - well, I would suggest you take a world tour and find out what it is like to be really persecuted for something.
Perhaps you could visit your own country's refugee centres? Interview the refugees?
The Jehovah's Witnesses got off to their spectacular start by arranging to appear "persecuted". So if you want, you could always imitate their tactics. If you can live with yourself doing that.

2007-03-15 05:56:26 · answer #3 · answered by Mr Ed 7 · 0 0

Discrimination against atheists is still an acceptable discrimination.
I believe that atheists, at least in America, endure a much worse persecution than martyrs ever did, Ours is a lifetime of having to stand by, helplessly, while one, single religion dominates and controls our government. We must constantly endure passive persecution, in the form of small messages such as "In God We Trust" from the very government which supposedly grants us freedom of thought.
http://www.daltonator.net/durandal/religion/history.shtml

2007-03-18 16:13:20 · answer #4 · answered by Jess H 7 · 0 0

What the hell are you talking about? What world are you living in? Open your eyes and look around. Secularists are the ones persecuting christians all over the place. Western countries (including America) are extremely secularist and shove it down everyone's throats. Look at the biggest selling books and movies today. They are all anti-christian God-hating filthy satanic movies: Brokeback mountain (two cowboy fruitcakes), Da vinci code (slander against christianity) and so on.

In the midst of all this persecution of christians in a largely sinful secular God-hating world, ones head has to be examined to have asked the question I just answered.

2007-03-16 22:09:01 · answer #5 · answered by Nick 2 · 0 0

no, thats just bush's opinion. aetheists aren't persecuted...not in america at least. but there are those who view them with a certain degree of spite

new religious groups (in this case, a non-religious group) are always viewed with some contempt for a while after being born. while aetheism isnt really a new thing, the emergence of technology disputing scripture has fueled aetheism in ways history could not accomplish, so this is essentially the birth of aetheism.

2007-03-15 06:11:48 · answer #6 · answered by squirrelman9014 3 · 0 0

Are there Atheists that persecute Christians? Of course. Are there Christians that persecute Atheists? Infinitely more. Simply because Christians are the majority and Atheists an insignificant minority.

Remember that this country was not founded by Bible thumpers. Our founding fathers were not the holy spirit-possessed, conservative, anti-homosexuality, anti-stem cell research, anti-abortion, anti-contraception, anti-premarital sex people that people associate with the Christian community.

Our country was founded primarily by Deists, people who believed God created the world, set things in motion, and left humans up to their own devices.

This stuff..."In God we trust" "One country under God", none of this was original. They came about when over religious congress members decided to band together and get bills passed. None of that was intended by our founding father, it only came about when Christianity started to infuse itself into American culture.

Most *true* atheists don't care about religion. Persecution is ridiculous to them. But they are persecuted by moronic, narrowminded imbeciles who jump to conclusions such as "Without God, there is no morality".

Any college freshman taking Philosophy knows that morality stems from a society, not from a magic, mystical, all-knowing source.

If you believe in God, that's your thing. If I don't, that's mine. And if you have a problem with it, false accusations won't get you anywhere. Bring your bible over to any philosophy forum and we'll settle it there.

2007-03-18 10:35:37 · answer #7 · answered by Kleptin A 2 · 0 0

Meow meow meow mew purr mew ma ma ma meow!

Oh sorry, in English for the humans.

In real life, I'm not sure. Out here, it is true.

2007-03-15 05:52:15 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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