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...they have no hope of their candidates winning unless they do?

Folks, seriously... the two frontrunners in the Democratic camp, unfortunately, each have one major strike against them - bigotry. Hillary Clinton's gender and Barack Obama's skin color are quite enough that ignorant white trash middle America will never, ever vote for them. You really don't have to dig much deeper than that to disqualify them in the eyes of many voters.

So why not, instead of mudslinging, just promote your own candidates? I've not heard one reason why I SHOULD vote Republican... only reasons why I SHOULDN'T vote Democrat. Is this really how we want to make our voting decisions now? "Vote for us because we're the lesser of two evils"?

2007-03-15 04:07:16 · 24 answers · asked by Bush Invented the Google 6 in Politics & Government Politics

aimhigh: Interesting theory you've got there. Unfortunately for you, it's a lie.

2007-03-15 04:15:06 · update #1

nicolasr: Like I said, all I hear are reasons why I shouldn't vote Democrat. I don't want to hear why I SHOULDN'T vote for someone; I want to hear why I SHOULD. Also - in case you haven't noticed, the list of Republican Presidential hopefuls is longer than the list of Democrat Presidential hopefuls. But I guess it isn't too early for Republicans to start running for President, is it?

2007-03-15 04:17:11 · update #2

Jacob: Please read more carefully. I was talking about the mudslinging on THIS WEBSITE. Last I checked, no one on this website worked for Hillary Clinton.

2007-03-15 04:25:26 · update #3

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You forgot the favorite strike against Obama by the righties on this site- his middle name. Funny how people can operate without the slightest hint of introspection (i.e. "yeah, he must be a terrorist" instead of "how stupid do they think I am?")

The right exists in its current form as a continued cycle of Bill Clinton backlash. These people have such a thing for Bill that they can't answer a single question without invoking his name. The only positive they can come up with for the shrub is that he never changes his mind. Other than that, it's a bunch of abstractions about "victory" (as if it were possible to win another country's civil war) and "patriotism" (which apparently means blindly following the regime).
The republican party needs a domestic boogeyman to take the focus off of themselves. As long as they can tell us how horrible liberals are, they don't seem like such fascists (at least to their base). Judging by the last election, fewer and fewer people are going to buy it.

2007-03-15 04:17:46 · answer #1 · answered by Schmorgen 6 · 0 8

For most Americans, there are no reasons to vote Republican, no candidates to stand behind because in a pinch, they will fall into line with the party for fear of retaliation from above. So, the only thing that they can do is to keep the scare tactics going because you are right, their platform is that 'they are worse than us' - and when that doesn't work, their platform is that 'they are probably worse than us, and they might do this, which might lead to this and might make this happen'.

And they are doing it because it has proved effective in the past. I don't know if we have short memories or spend too much time watching TV (probably not that, most of us are working 2 jobs to keep the credit card interest paid), or have gotten so politically, environmentally, and spiritually delusioned that we just go with the flow and mouth off without doing any research or looking into issues. Perhaps the politicians have finally accomplished their goal of convincing us that it just doesn't matter and it will be the same no matter who wins, so vote for the party that runs real candidates - old white guys with oil and lobby connections.

I lived in TX during the Bush/Gore elections and the day before the election, there was a mass email & telephone campaign warning that the minute Gore was in the White house, he was going to unilaterally take everyone's guns away. And it worked, because so many folks didn't take the time to research that Congress has to be involved, etc, and it isn't something you can just 'do'. Well, back then it wasn't, anyway. There wasn't a mass campaign about voting for Bush because he was great or stood for something in particular, just don't vote for the other guy, he'll take your gun. And let the NRA or some other contributor do it for you, so you can be 'shocked' about it and act like you are not accountable for it happening.

The trick would be to get voters to really think - about the country, our resources, our children, our grandchildren. The folks and businesses that are getting all the tax breaks now do not have to worry about that, they have enough money that their kids are ok, and if a recession hits, their grandkids are ok because they have LOTS of money. Hurricanes, floods, tornadoes - they tear at our heart and make us work together to survive . BUT, we expect the government to be able to help when so many places are classified as disaster areas, that's what we pay taxes for. But where are we going to get the money for that if we are giving it away to corporations and millionaires, and funding this war? Somehow, thinking about things like that has become Socialist, and questioning policy has become unamerican.
So yeah, the only way the Republicans can hold on is to convince the 'unwashed masses' that they are the real Americans and get them scared enough they don't figure out the Middle Class is what is paying for all of this.

I would glady vote for a candidate that stood for accountability and would work with other leaders to solve global problems and think of solutions instead of photo ops. And I would vote for a candidate that stood against no bid contracts, against folks like Enron running our energy policies, against illegal activites by the government, against red tape that has trailers sitting in a parking lot a few miles away from folks sleeping in the rain and cold because of another natural disaster.

And I am firmly convinced I will not find such a candidate in the Republican party. I can only hope that actually thinking will catch on, and in time to do us some good. Like how about any company that outsources anything overseas not be allowed to bid on a government contract??? Probably another Socialist idea, I am sure.

2007-03-15 05:15:04 · answer #2 · answered by Rowena 2 · 0 0

Studies have shown that mudslinging is more effective than talking positive about your candidate. I didn't write those rules, and I sure don't intend to play by them unless I have a good reason to sling some mud at a candidate.

Aside from being female, which should not be viewed as a limitation, Hillary is a *****, and she's a polarizing figure. Instead of Bush hate, we'd have Hillary hate and another divided country for 4-8 years. Plus her Universal Health Care plan benefits a group of people that can't afford a service at the expense of those who can, that doesn't seem fair to me.

Barrack has limited experience, although he is doing very well for himself as a politician. Again, his race is a non-issue with me.

2007-03-15 04:28:02 · answer #3 · answered by Pfo 7 · 3 0

Personally, I am looking at the faults of my own fellow conservatives. Things like the liberalistic social views of Guiliani, the shakiness of McCain, the Liberitarian aspects of Ron Paul, the taxation issues with Hucklebee, etc.

I don't need to mudsling Hillary or Obama (and I never refer to his middle name thank you very much), I won't vote for them simply because their idealogy is drastically different from my own. That is all I need to know and care about.

If a woman like Condelessa Rice or a black man like Colon Powell, or a strong conservative like Newt Gingrich ran, they would all certainly have my vote and would be glad to choose from them. Seeing as we won't know if any or all of those were to run until closer to fall, I will just have to critique those who have announced.

Also, for you information I would vote for a Democrat if their idealogy was close to my own and especially if they would show great integrity so I atleast know where they actually stand on issues. People can say what they will about Bush, but atleast you can't say you don't know where he is on most, if not all, issues. You have every right to disagree with those views, but he hasn't nor will he back down from his core beliefs. My only real problem with him has been that he hasn't been firm enough when dealing with the press and those who disagree with him. If he is wrong then so be it, but atleast he is doing what he feels is best for the nation and not living by what some poll of 1000 or so people. It takes a real man of integrity to do what is right no matter what the circumstances.

2007-03-15 05:07:08 · answer #4 · answered by Nate 3 · 0 0

Dude, if someone asks a question we answer the question. Don't get your panties in a bunch because you don't like the answers.

The only bigotry I see is people like you generalizing about what other people like 'middle America" would or would not do.


Also, it is too early to promote a candidate yet. We probably haven't even seen all the candidates who will announce yet.

And the only mud I have seen was slung by Hillary's camp against Obama. That sort of infighting has nothing to do with conservatives.

ADDITIONAL:

You did not specify which mudslinging you were referring to. I stand by my answer. Who you work for is none of my concern.
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2007-03-15 04:18:30 · answer #5 · answered by Jacob W 7 · 6 0

What a BS charge. Bigotry my freaking butt. That has the be the shallowest and falsest thing you've said yet.

As for "discrediting" them, Hillary has already discredited herself for the past 15 years - we just recite the facts. It is the truth that discredits Hillary.

As for Obama, he's a cypher. Other than riding his personal charisma to this point, nobody can point to anything he's really done. Sure, he wrote a book, but other than that, he's not come down firm on any policy, has taken no strong stand. Not that I care - I'd never vote for a neo-Socialist Democratic candidate anyway.

But it is sad that you have to insult us with your lies.

How does the fact that many conservatives would strongly support a presidential run by Condoleezza Rice fit into your twisted and warped view?

To hell with you and your stupid and childish insults.

2007-03-15 04:23:41 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

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2016-09-30 23:13:15 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Honestly, it's not hard to discredit the current lot of Dem candidates. The hard part is getting their supporters to listen.

"...ignorant white trash middle America will never, ever vote for them."

Glad to see what an upper-crust Democrat thinks of the working middle-class!

2007-03-15 04:15:37 · answer #8 · answered by Michael E 5 · 5 1

Not at all my freind, it has nothing to do with their race skin color or gender, and it certainly has nothing to do with putting the otherside down so we can look good. Sir, look at their stand on the issues, their veiws are way of the mainstream, they proved last year in the elections that people were not satisifed with them and Now were simply pointing out that these canidates do not have a fighting chance either. not because htier race or gender, but because the american people know better than be fooled by thier far leftis agenda.

2007-03-15 04:24:33 · answer #9 · answered by Rated J for Jesus 2 · 4 1

Legitimate concerns have been raised about both candidates. The problem isn't race or gender - it's that the Dems try to hide behind the race or gender card and thereby avoid answering the questions.

I don't care about race or gender or even sexuality. If a black lesbian got up and said "on economic policy, Galbraith was totally wrong and Friedman totally right," I'd vote for her - heck I'd volunteer for her campaign.

2007-03-15 04:13:29 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 7 1

Are you calling Conservatives "ignorant white trash"? I am Republican. I voted for President Bush. I am certainly NOT ignorant OR trash. Your assumption that it is ONLY the Republicans bashing your candidates is absurd. There is name calling and dirt digging on BOTH sides. I get angry with BOTH parties for these actions, but certainly you cannot seriously believe that it is ONLY my political party pointing fingers!

2007-03-15 04:21:40 · answer #11 · answered by mommyismyname 3 · 4 1

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