What are your thoughts on calling out the National Guard to patrol inner cities?

Question

Here is Wisconsin a Milwaukee Alderman proposed doing just that.
We had over 800 shootings last year and the unemployment rate for working age men in the inner city is around 45%.

How is this a political questions - Milwaukee has an EXTREMELY high amount of Democrats and I cannot ever recall a Republican Mayor in my time. One Mayor way back was actually a Socialist.

They are asking for Military POLICE, not the fighting troops.

A bunch of possible solutions to the problem have been tossed around. This is just one of them.

As for Doyle or Barrett creating 10,000 jobs in Milwaukee...NO WAY! They economy is stagnant and they don't care about businesses (or so it seems to ME fromwhat I read in the Milw. Journal)

Answer 1

I have an issue with any of our Military patrolling our cities. They are not trained policeman. I would have to vote that down. Growing up outside Detroit I understand exactly what you are saying, yet they keep voting in a Democrat. Until the people of Milwaukee decide to take their own futures into their own hands they will always be what is known at modern day slaves to the government and subject to the conditions for which they themselves have helped create.

Answer 2

Someone should introduce that person to the Posse Comitatus Law that states the Military cannot be used for civil Police Functions.

What you need is increased Police presence but that's hard to do in a city with that much crime.

When the Supreme Court forced Rochester to introduce school busing to promote racial equality, they killed the City. People were not about to put their kids on a bus to go clear across town, not knowing if they were going to get them back or not. the result is that the people who could, moved out of the City.

the tax base fell and City services decreased. From 1969 to 1990 the PD went from 750 Officers to 625, but per capita, those 625 were taking more than twice as many calls for service as any other Department in New York.

The City couldn't cut social welfare problems because most of the citizens were social welfare recipients. The couldn't put that genie back in the bottle. The Social Services Dept. started finding jobs for the recipients to do but some liberal judge decided that you couldn't make them work for the money.

To this day, it gets worse and worse. To save money, the PD went from 7 patrol districts to 2. You call the cops in Rochester, you may have to wait a long while for them to get to you. Everybody suffers.

Answer 3

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on 1878-06-18 after the end of Reconstruction.

The Act was intended to prohibit Federal troops from supervising elections in former Confederate states.

It generally prohibits Federal military personnel and units of the United States National Guard under Federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress.

The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the Federal government to use the military for law enforcement.

Answer 4

There is the issue of Posse Comitatus. We can't patrol in the role of police unless we're under martial law or unless there is a crisis within the police department.

It's not that we can't, it's that we're not allowed.

One interesting thing, though. My job, here in Iraq, is to work with the local population and help rebuild infrastructure, help establish governance, and provide jobs for the community. I would be embarrassed to tell you how much money we've spent standing up the local villages around Baghdad. It does work, though.

I wonder if there is a way to use what we're learning here to put into practice there?

It would be an interesting study....

Answer 5

There is no easy solution. Like New Orleans and Cleveland, these people have an hostile entitlement mentality and until the right people are in elected office to clean up these cities, military police will only act as a band-aid solution. They need to get to the root of the problem.

Answer 6

Initially my thoughts are against it. I am fearful of where this nation might end up by involving the military in civilian affairs such as law enforcement. That being said, our nation has used, successfully, on several occasions the military to assist in civilian affairs during a time of crisis.

As for those of you who responded with provide the inner city men with jobs, I say, the inner city men should go get a job.

Answer 7

This u . s . a . is so on the brink of martial regulation that it is not humorous. whilst they shot the black boy in Anaheim and enable him bleed to loss of life in front of every person, that become a actual low element for police & community relatives. you are able to no longer shoot unarmed human beings in the returned whether they run from the police. this might ultimately galvanize riots and public disobedience often.. whilst they call in the national shield or military then we are able to be only like Egypt or Syria.. i'm surprised via what's happening in the U. S... P

Answer 8

That's not the function of the National Guard. Routine police work is a function of local government. I don't remember hearing about Rudy Giuliani calling out the National Guard to reduce crime in NYC.

But he got it done, didn't he?

Answer 9

Bringing in the National Guard for a situation like this is akin to implementing a police state. If people would just hold themselves and their fellow citizens personally accountable for their actions, proposals like this would be unnecessary.

Answer 10

It sounds like Wisconsin needs to start electing competent leaders that can deal with the crime issue. Calling out the National Guard is basically an admission of incompetence by the elected officials.