Do you think?

Question

That it is the ignorance of youth that makes people believe that Pete Ruth should be in the Hall of Fame?

Duh! Yes I did mean Pete Rose. Mornings come far too early and the coffee kicks in far too late. Please forgive my oversight on my question

Answer 1

Partially that - the number of second, third and fourth chances these days lead to people thinking that just about anything is okay. You just say "Sorry" and act like nothing ever happened. Integrity is fast becoming a lost virtue, especially in the sporting world. But I gotta admit, with the info available at our fingertips via the 'net and the intense coverage of virtually everything, we may just know a lot more about celebrity types than in years gone by.

Answer 2

I don't get it. Pete Rose can be seen at the Hall of Fame. His accomplishments are there! As an individual he is not seen in the Hall and should never be allowed to be enshrined because of what he did. He knowingly broke the rules and every contract he signed as a player or manager. It cannot be just about accomplishments to be in the Hall. Everyone needs to ask themselves whether or not they would feel the same way about this question is Pete's accomplishments were not as great as there are. I doubt people would be as supportive if he were a "bubble" candidate for induction.

Answer 3

Pete Rose should be allowed to be on the BALLOT to get into the Hall of Fame. What Pete Rose did was wrong. He broke a "comandment" of baseball. He placed bets on baseball, while playing the game. Not only that, but he has openly admitted to betting on his on team (he claims, it was "always" for them to win). However, that does not diminish his ON-field accomplishments. He is the All-Time hits leader, there is no asterisk next to his name. Many people of this ERA have come under fire for alleged (some proven) accusations of steriod or HGH use. Mark McGuire most notably has been dealing with this cloud over his head (especially now since he has become eligible for the HOF). He has not been proven guilty of any cheating, but he didn't make it in (yet). If any other player had his stats (500+ HRs and, although brief, holding the single season HR record) then without a doubt they would have made it in the 1st time. McGuire, with the steriod allegations looming, barely scratched together 23 percent (75 needed to get in). This is why I think Rose at least deserves a shot in the hall. If the writers feel that he deserves it, despite his gambling, then they'll vote him in, if not, then they won't. At least his fate would be decided by the "many" then just by the "few."

Answer 4

Goodness there are so many things to consider.
1 Yes l think Pete Rose should have been inducted before the scandal.

2 I think there is a depth to what he did that most people don't realize.

3 Regardless of how great he was, there needs to be emphasis on WAS.

4 Have you given any thought to the fact that in his gambling he may have thrown a few games.

5 It is certainly OK to praise him for his accomplishments before the mess.

I personally think Pete should not be in the HOF. I don't think he should be excluded from the history books, but the HOF is not the place for him.
The severity of his crime is not of the same level as O.J. Simpson, however you will notice that the key word here is CRIME.
We may all make mistakes on our journey through life. When we do we expect consequences. Pete is no different than the rest of us on this level.
l hope this doesn't offend anyone, it's simply some of my thoughts at this moment. l can change my mind if someone can offer a new argument on it all.

Pete Rose was the man. l admire him like no other. BUT! ! !

Answer 5

Theres also the ignorance of age that make people believe that a record attained by mearly hanging around for so long really distinguishes the ball player as a man worthy of the Hall of Fame. If Pete Rose would learn to stifle himself the world of baseball would be better off. He's a crook and a liar. "nuff said

Answer 6

Pete Ruth has a better chance to get in the hall of fame than Pete Rose does.He should be in the hall of shame along with the steroid users.

Answer 7

They dont call it a lifelong ban for nothing. The "no gambling on baseball" rule is sacrosanct in baseball. All players know the rule. It's posted in every clubhouse. Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays were suspended from baseball JUST BECAUSE THEY WORKED FOR A CASINO! That was rescinded because they never bet on the games. Just worked for places that took action on games. There is a big difference.

Pete Rose sealed his fate when he lied about betting on baseball and refused to show remorse. He's been taunting baseball officials for years, demanding to be reinstated or daring them not to. Then, a couple of years ago, on the day they announced HOF nominations, he stole the thunder away from guys nominated for the HOF with his "tell all" book. His time to be elected to the HOF has passed by the way.

Recently, he came up with this "I bet on my team every day because I love my team" routine. Well guess what? Betting on your team is even WORSE than betting on baseball.

The "Black Sox" scandel almost ruined the game of baseball. MLB has been strict about this rule since 1920. Shoeless Joe Jackson and Hap Felsch were never reinstated, and it was never proven that either of them cheated. All they did was KNOW about it without telling anyone. Judge Landis, who was commissioner of baseball after the scandel, banned all 8 Chicago "Black" Sox even though they were acquitted at trial for cheating. Here, we have a guy who admits he gambled against baseball policy. A transgression punishable by a lifetime ban.

Why is this a bad thing? If Pete Rose bets on his team, it gets out through the grapevine that he did. People figure he has inside information. So how hard he bets, or if he doesnt bet becomes an influence on betting. And raises speculation about players throwing games. These are reasons MLB has made this such a major offense.

Finally, there is no comparison to guys who broke criminal laws. These violations are not BASEBALL violations. Now, steroid use is a baseball violation. You will see guys banned for that someday. Pete Rose violated the strictest BASEBALL rule on record. He agreed to the ban. His records aside, he really wasnt that GREAT of a baseball player. Not better than Shoeless Joe Jackson. But it doesnt matter. The rule is the rule. Pete Rose should just STFU and take his rightful place in baseball lore. A cheat and gambler who got a ton of hits.

Answer 8

Yes, Pete Rose should make the Hall of Fame. Gambling, believe it or not, is a disease. Many people think you can just turn it off, but it's as addictive as alcohol or smoking. I believe in second chances. I didn't like Pete Rose when he played, but only because I was kind of jealous of him. After thinking about it, I realized that others may be disappointed in him because he showed a human weakness he couldn't overcome. He played hard with dedication. Hence, the nickname "Charlie Hustle".

Answer 9

I support the lifetime ban of Pete Rose from baseball and do not believe he is Hall worthy.

Answer 10

Pete Ruth should be in the Hall Of Fame.


Right alongside Larry Johnson.