I am confused why a group of Slavic people inSkopje want to call themselvs Macedonians?

Question

Why do they feel so inferior that they can't create their own culture.... Slavs have been around for so long... true their history is nothing to write home about and they do live in a third world country... I herd they were not wanted by Serbia or Bulgaria.. but why dont they just creat a country called skopjeslavia? Doesn't that make a lot more sense?

Answer 1

We have to say first that there is authentic Macedonia of Greece and a small Slavic-Albanian republic that uses (illegally) the Greek name “Macedonia”.
They use the term only geographically since the Greek term Macedonia is used as a broader geographical term in the Balkans.
In history we have 2 separated events that made some Slavs to use the name Macedonian. (Of course the authentic Macedonians never became Slavs)
a) The first incident, after the end of the Greek-Roman world and during the supremacy of the Greek dominated empire of the middle ages (the famous Byzantine Empire), is a great number of population movements that occurred.
The most important movement that affects the Greek/Roman Balkans was the appearance of the Slavic tribes. They first arrived in the late 6th and early 7th centuries AD when Slavic-speaking populations overturned Macedonia's Greek ethnic composition. From that time although the majority of the population remained Greek, the northern parts were populated by a majority of Slavs (mainly of Bulgarian origin).
(A branch of the Bulgarians led by khan Kuber, however, settled western Macedonia and eastern Albania around 680 AD and also engaged in attacks on Byzantium together with the Slavs.)
The Slavs in Macedonia continued to call themselves Bulgarians during the first four centuries of Ottoman rule and were described as such by Ottoman historians like Evliya Celebi and Sa'aedin.
From the 17th century, authors who declared themselves 'Macedonian' did so in the context of publishing Greek books and belonging to the Greek nation. 19th century ethnographers and travelers were generally united in identifying the Slavic speakers as Bulgarians, at least!
b)The second incident is the creation of the Socialist republic of (Slavic)Macedonia inside the communist Yugoslavia in 1946.
Following the war, Tito separated Yugoslav Macedonia from Serbia, making it a republic of the new federal Yugoslavia (as the Socialist Republic of Macedonia) in 1946. He also promoted the concept of a separate “Macedonian nation”, as a means of severing the ties of the Slav population of Yugoslav Macedonia with Bulgaria, although the modern (Slav)Macedonian language is close to and largely mutually intelligible with Bulgarian, and to a lesser extent Serbian. The differences were emphasized and the region's historical figures were promoted as being uniquely “Macedonian” (almost every Bulgarian hero was described as “Macedonian”). A separate Macedonian Orthodox Church was established, splitting off from the Serbian Orthodox Church in 1967 (only partly successfully, because the church has not been recognized by any other Orthodox Church). The ideologists of a separate and independent "Macedonian" country, same as the pro-Bulgarian sentiment, were forcibly suppressed.
Tito had a number of reasons for doing this. First, he wanted to reduce Serbia's dominance in Yugoslavia; establishing a territory formerly considered Serbian as an equal to Serbia within Yugoslavia achieved this effect. Secondly, he wanted to sever the ties of the Slav-Macedonian population with Bulgaria as recognition of that population as Bulgarian could have undermined the unity of the Yugoslav federation. Thirdly, Tito sought to justify future Yugoslav claims towards the rest of geographical Macedonia; in August 1944, he claimed that his goal was to reunify "all parts of Macedonia, divided in 1915 and 1918 by Balkan imperialists." To this end, he opened negotiations with Bulgaria for a new federal state, which would also probably have included Albania, and supported the Greek Communists in the Greek Civil War. The idea of reunification of all of Macedonia under Communist rule was abandoned in 1948 when the Greek Communists lost and Tito fell out with the Soviet Union and pro-Soviet Bulgaria.
Tito's actions had a number of important consequences for the Macedonians. The most important was, obviously, the promotion of a distinctive Macedonian identity as a part of the multiethnic society of Yugoslavia. The process of ethnogenesis gained momentum, and a distinct national SlavicMacedonian identity was formed. There have been numerous accounts from northern Macedonia from the late 1940s that the policy of Bulgarisation during the Bulgarian occupation (1941 - 1944) was as abhorrent for the ordinary Slav-Macedonian as the policy of Serbisation until then. IMRO's leader in exile, Ivan Mihailov, and the renewed Bulgarian IMRO after 1990 have, on the other hand, repeatedly argued that between 120,000 and 130,000 people went through the concentration camps of Idrizovo and Goli Otok for pro-Bulgarian sympathies or ideas for independent Macedonia in the late 1940s., which has also been confirmed by former prime minister Ljubco Georgievski.
As a conclusion we can say that the ancient Macedonians were part of the Greek world and they still remained in Greece; modern Slav-Macedonians because of the great propaganda from the communist dictatorship of Tito (nearly 60 years of propaganda!!!!) had lost their Bulgarian identity and are claiming a “Macedonian” ethnicity.

Answer 2

that's a complicated issue,the historic Macedonians were a non-Greek human beings initially that became Greek by intermarriage and cultural assimilation.that's not clean what the historic Macedonians were initially. The Slavic Macedonians are frequently considered as no longer appropriate to the historic Macedonians or at maximum may have susceptible ancestral links to them

Answer 3

In order for a nation to survive needs bases - history.
Thus, all "new" nations have god fathers who are creating their history, adopting historical and mythological facts from others or creating such! You know: even the lie if said frequently becomes truth (unfortunately, but!)
As I know, Macedonians might or might not be Greek, but definitely they are not Slavs!
Then, what is the connection?
Read history! Go back to 1948 and find the discussion between Stalin and Tito! voila! you got your answer!

Answer 4

Don't be confused my friend....
SIMPLY, they have no identity and they try to pinch one. but they have chosen to steal a wrong one.
I should suggest them to go to AUSTRALIA and claim that they are aborigines, they may have the chance to make a land claim as well.

Unfortunatelly they missed their chance to prove that they are Macedonians, because Macedonians were participating in the ancient Olympic Games, where "ONLY GREEKS" were participating, therefore that way it is proven that Macedonians were "Greeks" and not a seperate nation.

Answer 5

Their real name is Vardaska.If you see back when they were part of Yugoslavia(slavia(they are slavs) this place was called Vardarska.

Answer 6

We all know that you are CONFUSED!! That is not your fault that is how your Greek Government taught you!! TO BE CONFUSED!! Of what the really MACEDONIA is!!!