Do Libs rail against Fox/Hannity because they can't discredit CNBC/Kudlow/Bartiromo?

Question

I don't watch Fox. I'm aware that it's out there and I think I've heard Hannity on the radio, but I don't know what their "talking points" are or whether they have any.

I am in finance for a living and I invest. I watch CNBC and Bloomberg to keep up with the markets. There is also commentary, provided by people who know what they're talking about. Kudlow's conclusions generally support an unfettered private sector as an ideal - but the facts support him there, his positions are fairly standard in the financial world, and more importantly the analysis is to start with the facts, apply logic and see where that goes, rather than to come in with a preconceived ideal and try to find - or make up - facts to support it (which is what Lou Dobbs does).

You don't see Libs railing against CNBC, just Fox......

Is this basically an admission?

Re: Dobbs -

http://econospinning.com/


Most people actually in finance think he's something of a demogogue and a charlatan, taking things grossly out of context to support an isolationist / populist political message that has long since been discredited.

It's not that "good manufacturing jobs are being lost and replaced with Wal-Mart jobs" - it's that mediocre manufacturing jobs are being lost though not nearly as fast as represented (some people just don't want to move from Michigan to North Carolina - not the government's fault) and the jobs being created are actually largely the high-paying, white collar jobs people say they want created, but laid-off blue collar workers aren't qualified to get those jobs. This is why the gap between college-educated and non-college-educated workers is growing - - but non-college-educated workers start 4-7 years earlier, don't go $100K into debt, and let's face it, have a much easier job to do, so I don't see where it's "unfair."

Answer 1

You're on to something. Kudlow rocks, he has many different intelligent guests, who discuss policy and ideas, that dont through around slogans and sound bites.
Hannity plays gotcha politics, once and awhile Hannity is right on, but Kudlow conducts a much more in depth show.
I catch Kudlow when I can, and watch Special Report w/ Brit Hume.

Answer 2

I've got to ask, what facts does Lou Dobbs make up? I think he is a breath of fresh air and frankly love when he rails against "free market" types.

I know a few thousand Enron investors who would argue against your "unfettered private sector as an ideal" theory too by the way.

Govt. does need some oversight to manage the corruption.

EDIT:
You know that final part does make the classical argument, but what of the outsourcing of high paying IT jobs? Even law and finance related jobs? Anything that can be done online can be done off-shore for much less. That takes high paying educated jobs away from Americans and what do we have to do, move to nanotech?

That industry will never be as big as IT was in the 90's. No, outsources pokes holes in your argument sorry...

Answer 3

Because Fox is primarily an entertainment medium, Hannity and O'Reilly are pundits, not newsmen, and Fox presents a slanted view of the news.

CNBC deals primarily in factual information. Opinions are clearly identifiable. Results are quantifiable. If someone says watch out for this stock, it's gonna go up, and it crashes, that person loses credibility. No such accountability exists on Fox.

Answer 4

There are quite a few programs sponsored by state and federal government to allow displaced workers to be retrained at low or no cost to them. I have always thought it was my responsibility to go where the work is or settle for the work in my area if I can not move. The focus of whether the middle class does well or not should be on the middle class themselves. The jobs and people change but the middle class remain. It is the I/me entitlement way of thinking that is hurting our country . people used to do what it took to succeed now they seem to think they are owed it.

Answer 5

I think what you're seeing is that Libs rail against moronic attitudes and behaviour. You've pointed out yourself that the folks on CNBC, by and large, are reasonable and intelligent - no reason to rail against them.

Being a part of one political party should not mean that you summarily dismiss and criticize everything from the other side. What good would that do? How can we learn and grow if we cover our ears and refuse to listen to other views? In your line of work, you know better than that...don't let go of your reason and lower your standards in this forum....

Answer 6

Both sides lie. True.

Answer 7

All corporate media can be discredited.