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Can't you get your pretty heads around the concept that payment is made for quantity of work performed, not based on having the same job title?

2007-03-12 12:30:38 · 26 answers · asked by S h ä r k G û m b ò 6 in Social Science Gender Studies

I'm talking about equal pay for equal work, not equal pay for doing a lesser amount of work than another person.

I'm not talking about women who don't work being somehow included in a calculating a magic "average" figure comparing mens and womens income.

2007-03-12 12:39:35 · update #1

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Because the feminazis want something to whine about. I've never in my life had an issue with equal pay for equal work...in fact at this one job I kept getting raises every few months, 25 cents an hour!

Think of it like this: activism creates jobs. There's a person hired to do this job for the group, another person hired over here...and if their activist group isn't needed, there go some jobs. So to keep their jobs they have to keep the myth going.

Make sense?

2007-03-12 13:05:14 · answer #1 · answered by ? 6 · 5 6

Boy oh boy if the tables were reversed...this is not a myth-it is fact. I know this for a fact working as an Human Resource Mgr. I have seen it first hand. Equal pay for equal work does not exist in many places simply b/c some women are not even elevated to the positions of highest pay. It is archaic. Put yourself in a woman's shoes and then have this debate with me.

Adding on to this-I think you are just trying to get a rise out of people. Good strategy! I am sorry I fell for it.

2007-03-12 15:12:36 · answer #2 · answered by HRchick 4 · 4 2

"...payment is made for 'quantity' of work performed, not having same job title." In "blue collar" work, maybe. But that is NOT true in most white collar jobs, especially management. If a job is salaried, and not hourly (like most white collar positions) then the "amount" of work doesn't matter...just performance. In fact, if a person can work 40 hrs a week, and perform as well as the person who works 60 hrs a week, then the person who works less is actually doing a "better job". And since more women are working in white collar positions, and still getting paid less for a salaried position (on average) I would say that it is no myth.

2007-03-12 20:50:15 · answer #3 · answered by wendy g 7 · 1 3

Quality and Quantity is the guideline, equal pay for equal work. And until the establishments human resource department can illustrate that there is a discrepancy in the amount or quality of a female workers production versus a males IT SHALL REMAIN AN ISSUE TO BE DEALT WITH AND CORRECTED!

2007-03-12 12:35:07 · answer #4 · answered by Faerie loue 5 · 2 4

http://gstudies.asp.radford.edu/sources/wage_gaps/payestimates1.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2004-08-26-women_x.htm
http://www.mwa.govt.nz/news-and-pubs/publications/pay-equity
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/282997_leftbehind29ww.html
http://www.factmonster.com/spot/equalpayact1.html

Gee, what a bunch of feminsits must work for the US Census Bureau, The Economist, the Wall Street Journal, and the like. They all quote the same figures: women's pay is 75-77% llower than men's for equal work. I know very few women earning the top of their salary range for the position they hold. I am one of them. I even have been told that although I am quallified and very intelligent, I do not present a tough enough image for the mangement job I apllied for last month that would have put me in the top 75% of my field (instead of the 45% mark). My work has been praised in quality by everyone who has worked alongside me, yet I have been told I have hit the "glass ceiling"; there is no place for me to grow unless I get another degree. Yet men all around me get promoted, starting witht he same degree and less work experience. When I speak, even though I have researched my topics meticulously, the President of the company looks for a senior male opinion before trusting mine. he probably is not even aware he is doing it, he would say, "just covering my bases". But I notice he does not question any men.

Women outnumber men 3 to 1 in veterinary medicine now. The reason? They are willing to accept lower pay than men. They are far less likely to negotiate a higher salary than men when they start a position. My first job in the research field, out of college, started at $19,000 a year. One year later, a male was hired, with much less hands-on experience and aptitude, for $27,000. Same company. Same position. Truth be told, a lot less work. So you tell me- who's making sh*t up? You, or me? Show me your evidence that women are earning equal pay for equal work. I would like to see it. With 10 year's experience, why did I start at the bottom of my pay grade, while male co-workers out of college started in the middle?

There is a big difference between negative approval and positive approval. Just because gender discrimination is technically against the law, it will still be a long time before any woman feels equal in the work place. I would bet that you can ask any professional, successful woman, and she will tell you she feels like a fraud in a man's world. We are taught from day 1 that we should not be too "ambitious"- leave that to our men. Be happy to settle for what someone is willing to give you. Be thankiful they HIRED you. Trust me- this is true. I did not work my way out of Appalachia for nothing.

Shouldn't we want all of our workers to earn their full salary potential?

Interesting how I was the only one to quote any real statistics here and I got the thumbs down. Just goes to show how much people can create their own reality, and get others to believe it.

2007-03-12 14:43:39 · answer #5 · answered by Hauntedfox 5 · 6 4

What if you don't get paid by the hour? What of the women who are on salary?
What your saying is if I make 100 wickets that are sub standard, I should get paid more than someone who makes 75 that are flawless.
I guess you just got out of your economy 101 class and feel you now have a perfect understanding of economics.

2007-03-12 12:40:41 · answer #6 · answered by Ron P 3 · 5 3

As an employee of a very sexist boss, I can tell you that is not true. I make better quality and quantity of work than most of my male counterparts and still, my pay reviews slip under the radar.

2007-03-12 12:35:11 · answer #7 · answered by sticky 7 · 5 3

Because the pronatalist movement is the biggest lobby pandered to in this country. And nobody can contradict them. You are evil and anti "family values" if you do.

2007-03-12 13:09:35 · answer #8 · answered by Lisa A 7 · 1 2

Some employers, although they have become the minority, still regard the man as the bread winner and will pay women less for the same job regardless of quantity of work.

2007-03-12 12:34:14 · answer #9 · answered by don n 6 · 4 5

Actually you are wrong on that.
The womans movement complain that women only make on average 70% of mens pay, they use skewed statics to prove their point.

As a group, based on gross income of all men verses all women, it might be true, but in jobs that ARE EQUAL, firefighters, police, nurses, any job they do that is exactly the same , they get the same pay. But womens groups like to talk about getting equal pay for work of equal value. To them a typist does a job that is necessary in the company, and an accounting clerk does work that is necessary to the company, so both jobs are necessary to the company and should be paid equally (only women could beleive in this concept)
Women on a whole want jobs that fit in with family life, and women want jobs that are clean and warm, Women apply for secretarial jobs, men don't, men apply for ditch digging and seweer work and garbage collection, cold wet, smelly in the winter, hot, sweaty, smelly in the summer and hard work physically all the time. Lots of people apply for a secretarial job, not so much a physical job. Supply and demand sets the wages.

If women want to take easier jobs for whatever reason, they shouldn't ***** that the job is not valued as highly. If a man took a secretarial job, he would get paid equal to a woman.

So the myth lives on, pushed by the feminists and left wing wackos...Sorry it has been a pet peeve for me.

Also I have seen all my working life, women take a lot more time off than men, for a businessman it is hard to take people seriously that take a lot of time off,

2007-03-12 12:44:58 · answer #10 · answered by bob shark 7 · 6 8

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