why do feminist women talk about being "oppressed" when in reality they can do anything they put their mind to

Question

where are these women that make less doing the same job? where are all these "oppressed" women? the only thing holding women back is women. Instead of complaining why don't you go take action. It's easy to complain that their are not enough women in a certain job. Here's an idea instead of complaining go out and get that job. you become the victom when you start acting like it.

Answer 1

HOBART dear, I am gonna educate you on feminism first. Then you can answer your own question.

Until the onset of feminism, women and men had a good way of working things out. The traditional men working and the women at home might not have been perfect but it certainly was not all that bad. However, there was/is a movement abroad to tear apart the strength of the nation and the best way to tear down a nation is to aim at its strongest link, the family.

For all of you guys who call women feminazis, please, understand women have been victimized too. Children, women, men... everyone has been used and exploited in this. Outright hatred and name calling will not heal this breach between the sexes.

The prominent and influential feminists of my generation, Friedan and Steinam advanced a sick version of the family on women. Suddenly we were taught men were the enemy and always abusive, that the heterosexual contract (marriage) was a jail for any intelligent productive woman. Talk about hate! Yet this is now taught to children in elementary schools! It is echoed in the media. Lesbians like Rosie O'Donnell are advanced as role models.

All of this is calculated to create personal confusion and sow chaos among heterosexuals. As a result, millions of American males are emasculated and divorced from their relationship to family (the world and the future.) The American woman has been hoodwinked into investing herself in a mundane career instead of the timeless love of her husband and children.

Many women have become temperamentally unfit to be wives and mothers. These women and men are now polarized. We are isolated and alone, stunted and love-starved, easy to fool and manipulate. Without the healthy influence of two loving parents, so are our children.

Feminism is a grotesque fraud perpetrated on society by its governing elite. It was designed to weaken the American social and cultural fabric in order to introduce a friendly fascist New World Order in which the state is our parent. Its advocates are sanctimonious charlatans who have grown rich and powerful from it. They include a whole class of liars and moral cripples who work for the elite in various capacities: government, education and the media. These imposters ought to be exposed and ridiculed.

Women's oppression is a lie. Sex roles were never as rigid as feminists would have us believe. My mother had a wonderful career in healing when she and my father married. But I was born 9 months after the honeymoon and she was happy, after 14 years in the Navy, to retire and become a Mom. When my father's income increased, she was content to quit and concentrate on the children. Women were free to pursue careers if they wanted to. The difference was that their role as wife and mother was understood, and socially validated, as it should be.

Personally, I am furious that this was done to us. We had no idea what was being done. It ruined my life and, when combined with the Playboy philosophy poured into our men, ruined our western civilization. Take down the family and you take down the nation. I am angry that now I am in that category of alone and poor. It would not necessarily have been that way without such horrid meddling.

But I would never complain to a man because they have been just as hurt and damaged as women were.

Answer 2

Lol, isn't that ironic for you. I am not a feminist so I can not answer that. I think women are still behind men as far as equal pay and other things more work related, but I think it is changing. Unfortunately, things take time and probably will never be quite right. We are looked at as inferior because we have babies and are generally the ones to take care of those babies, so equality becomes an issue. I am not saying I agree with this, but I do get where it comes from. Also, all you have to do is look at the racial issues this country still faces to see that change is hard. I guess we will never be perfect.

I think the better question is where are they not at. It is a proven fact, studies have been done, countless ones as a matter of fact. Women's role in the workforce is actually a recent thing. From the time they started there has not been equal pay. That gap is closing, but it still exists. It has been acknowledged every where, even by our government. How can you say it doesn't exist? Do your research it happens, a lot. Typically, the highest paid person is the white male, followed by the minority male, than the white woman, and finally, the minority female.
I kind of understood your question, until you added your comments. Now I think you do not have any clue about what you are asking.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/censusandstatistics/a/paygapgrows.htm

Answer 3

Research the current law suit against Wal Mart, for example.

Wal Mart pays women less, and doesn't promote qualified women; instead, they promote less-qualified men.

This is reality.

Most people take the jobs available; when those who make hiring, wage, and promotion decisions (mostly men), there's not a lot one can do but fight.

You seem to be saying that women who are being treated unfairly should shut up, and that they should fight.

Well, which is it?

Answer 4

what makes a woman a feminist is not talking about oppression, but taking an active stand and believing in all that women had fought for and accomplished during the centuries. but there is till a lot to be accomplished, gender equality means that women will no longer be underpayed or judged for the carrer they choose, or expected to "do everything at once"all the time. think about it. women are expected to ahve a career (otherwise they are considered stupid), have a great marriage and many children (or they are miserable and desperate old girls), have agreat socila life (otherwise they are not enjoying life), be able to cook and clean---all that possibly before they turn 30. are men expected to do that? please! i am not saying that I don't want to do all that, and, being a woman I can do all that, but it's harder when it's socially "expected". don't even get me started on the subject "woman has to be beautiful".... lot of work, but I guess women are stronger, right?

Answer 5

In stead of women wanting to take and take over and run a company created by men.
Why don't women and the feminist types start and run the same type business of their own run by women only.

And regardless of related factors, prophets, and economics, the women run companies could pay all of their women employee's the same wage the men are making over there at the men run businesses.

If the company was to failed then the cry would be.

We cannot compete against the male run businesses instead of placing the blame on themselves if the company wasn't able to prosper.

Answer 6

Interesting thing to think about: when African Americans were oppressed (which was REAL oppresion), they STILL made contributions to society such as the invention of the traffic life.

Out of all groups in the world women are the least oppressed but do the most complaining.

Consider the asians who were discriminated against in many ways but today are the most economicly succesful race in the USA.

Feminsm is an excuss for weakness.

Answer 7

It is impossible not to notice that there are no real examples of any women being oppressed, only the "some women" examples which is just like the so-called "patriarchy": neither exist as groups. (Sometimes presented as "I know a woman who...").
Women have every thing men have and a few more, very important items that men are denied such as rights in reproduction, affirmative action, two federal laws governing abuse of women, sexual harassment, women's shelters, domestic abuse, etc.
Sure, there are individual women who have made bad choices or are victims of some type of individual oppression just like men. If a woman is being oppressed in marriage, pregnancy or employment, it is her fault as she has chosen to be or remain in that state and/or failed to act to rectify the situation.
The result is that it appears that feminism has now shifted to attempt to assure all women have a life without difficulty, including difficulty cause by their own bad choices.
I don't know how to begin to explain that this just isn't feasible, no matter how many rights are denied men or children.
The word to describe feminists is not "oppressed", it is "spoiled".

Answer 8

Why don't you open your eyes. And remember your a man so you can't possibly feel what we feel. Just like a white man can't say anything about racism, he can't feel what it feels like to be treated differently every hour of every day out in the world. So I would just ask you to really go and check for yourself. You would see that for the same work women are paid a lot less. Women are still looked at by society and the media as the child-rearing stay at home moms, who have to still look good enough to please a man! So keep your mouth shut!

Answer 9

You must be talking about women in your social class, who can do whatever they want. You must not be aware or thinking of the women who are poor, uneducated, under-educated,with children-they can't easily do whatever they put their mind to, it takes money to pay for transportation and day care just to work at a low-paying job without benefits. It takes even more money to get an education, and even more time to get a decent job. You can only go to college if you're in a society that allows you to get an education and an education doesn't do you any good if your country doesn't allow you to work at your profession, or doesn't allow you to work at all. That's who is oppressed babe, and that is who feminists are trying to assist.

Answer 10

The oppression that women continue to experience is far more insidious now than in the past. There was a time when women could not vote, so it was easy to see that type of oppression.

Today (particularly if a woman is a feminine-appearing/sounding woman) the oppression is a behind-the-scenes matter that goes on on a day-to-day basis in the individual lives of at least some women.

Picture this example: A woman who has been living with a husband who treats her in an emotionally abusive way keeps it to herself because she's a reasonable person and thinks, "He's under stress. Why tell family members about how he treats me and make them think less of him when he'll probably stop once the stress dies down." So she deals with the situation alone until one day she feels threatened, flees her home, and shocks both the husband and the relatives. The husband tells her relatives how "nutty" she's been acting, the relatives believe him because he has a good education and job and think she must be nuts to want to leave such a "wonderful" husband, and by the time the husband has convinced the relatives of how "nutty" shes' been acting and a few mental health people have called to consult with the relatives, the woman gets picked up and brought to a mental health facility.

Because she is angry and will not give any of these "idiots" the satisfaction of showing how upset she is she won't cry, acts strong and someone arrogant - and gets diagnosed as possibly "paranoid".

While the "misunderstanding" eventually gets sort of straightened out, nobody at the mental health place will admit to picking up a perfectly healthy individual by mistake (maybe they don't want to be sued or lose their jobs). As a result, the court continues to be unsure of whether this woman is 100% (or 120%) mentally healthy, tells her she must see a psychiatrist and agree to "go along with whatever he/she says" (even if she doesn't agree with what is said). She tells the court that nobody in their right mind would stand before a judge and agree to accept whatever any doctor said without question - and she loses custody of her children for failing to cooperate.

This woman is, of course, angry; but the angrier she acts toward people and the more she talks about suing "everybody involved", the more she is seen as a nut.

This type of thing goes on all the time. I happen to know of at least five cases where women who try to leave marriages are not believed because even their own parents/relatives will doubt what they say when they say they have been treated abusively. Parents/relatives are often likely to believe the "nice, calm, well educated, working" husband over the woman who is upset at being made afraid enough to leave her home and who acts upset and is crying or angry.

Why the hell would anyone believe an inlaw over their own child/sister? Well, one reason is that our society has it so ingrained in it to listen to what men say while seeing a woman's display of being upset as "nutty". When a women is calm and does not display emotions she is seen as possibly paranoid and without feelings. The trick for women is that whether their behavior is seen as normal or nutty depends on what the person they're dealing with thinks their behavior ought to be - and women never know which way to act until its too late.

I have an example of a less serious type as well: Not long ago my sister wanted to send my husband a birthday card. She asked whether his birthday was the 10th or 19th. Having known this person since the 70's I told her it was the 19th. She looked at me in doubt and said, "I thought it was the 10th." I said, "No. The 19th." Well, on the 10th my husband received a birthday card and gift!!!!!!! I later learned that my sister's own husband believed he knew my husband's birthday, and she listened to him rather than to the person who has been married to this guy!!!

So, in serious and not-so-serious ways (although if you had to deal with not being listened to on a day-to-day basis it can become a kind of serious problem), this is the kind of crap feminists are talking about.