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For example: Can “faith” COMPLETELY discard “logic”, or fundamentally redefine and/or dispense it, as it pleases, and still maintain a minimal degree of lucidity and coherence?

2007-03-12 07:05:35 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

14 answers

Yes.

For example:
Faith is a belief in something not seen, but hoped for. To the person that has faith and has witnessed the Spirit testifying to them, it is completely logical for them to believe.

But to those that have never had similar experiences and base all their logic on proven facts and science, faith in something unproved is completely illogical, so it is logical to them to not believe.

2007-03-12 07:12:56 · answer #1 · answered by Raising6Ducklings! 6 · 2 0

If what is logical makes sense and what makes sense is logical then filling one's senses must have a logical derivitive.
Completely discarding logic with faith makes it blind...... to know how/when/where/what/why and dispensing as appropriate gives it a good balance/harmony.
Just as a picture paints a thousand words, the small picture is nothing without the big picture.... depending on who the viewer is too!

2007-03-12 14:08:25 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Hmm. I honestly don't think everything a person believes makes complete sense to them. There are many things that cannot be fully explained/are not fully understood, and fall out of the possession of "pure logic". When that happens, it is up to a person's mind to accept it despite the fact that it isn't completely logical- faith. And the faith makes up for the lacking logic.

(My thinking, anyway)

2007-03-12 15:01:37 · answer #3 · answered by happy_apple 3 · 0 0

Hi !!!

I believe that one faith is what defines, logic!!!

Depending on what the person faith and believes are, is how the logical aspect of this person will act and eventually react!!!

Faith can't discard logic, for the simple reason that faith is what actually supports logic. Which ever faith believe is to the person.

GOD BLESS YOU & HAPPY LIFE

A.Z.

2007-03-19 20:58:17 · answer #4 · answered by Alliv Z 4 · 0 0

Logic is what helps us to "make sense " of our surroundings,but it's illogical to depend on any one thing for all our answers and ignore all else. Faith is believing without physical proof which does not lend itself to logical thinking.In any case if faith or logic are taken to extermes without regard for the other it tends to raise questions about lucidity and coherence.

2007-03-18 21:45:26 · answer #5 · answered by george h 3 · 0 0

Logic is an integral part of our intelligence, and it is the chief method in our reason; without logical thinking nothing would have made any sense; logic enables us to place things in order and arrange them in comparisons and therefore to ascribe meanings to things, and to understand the value of things in our life. We would not be able to form any opinions at all about anything without the help of logic; we would have known nothing. Intelligence that incorporates logic, however, is derivative of our physical sense of reality, so much so that our perception of heavens is in fact an idealised version of what we find here. Beyond our physical sense of the world, or the knowable reality of life, is the domain of our constant inquiry that we constantly think about and ask questions; whereas further still is the world completely unknown to us in existence that we cannot formulate even in our questions.

The knowledge of faith is the ultimate of our ultimate opinions about all that is there in the reaches of our mind. We manage things we know with the help of our beliefs and then we define things we do not, or cannot know at all. If there are things the nature of which is unknown to us, a possibility of the life after death for example, then our knowledge that is entirely based upon reason and logic is incomplete. When we ask what is the meaning of life? Our logic does not answer this question, until it is placed within the context of belief about all things in existence.

Faith does not discard logic at all, it simply places it in a widest possible sense in the existence of the mind; faith instructs all faculties of the mind to come into formation to experience being itself, and excellence in being, instead of wandering endlessly into the this half-understandable world of all things, that our intelligence constantly tries to know with logic.

2007-03-12 14:34:20 · answer #6 · answered by Shahid 7 · 0 0

Yes, for a state of consciousness spins off its own set and line of logic. And that is a definite, bonafide plane, with no less validity than the next, whether being a light that is higher, lower or lateral, and all of which can differ not only in kind but in degree as well.

2007-03-17 23:45:51 · answer #7 · answered by ? 6 · 0 0

I think that faith and logic are two very different things and one should be careful not to try to base something like faith on logic.

Faith transcends logic; and if you try to base your faith on logic, ultimately something "logical" will happen that hurts your faith.

The reverse is not true. You can deal with logic day in and day out and never have it diminish your faith.

2007-03-12 14:19:33 · answer #8 · answered by Ernie 4 · 0 0

The most absurd positions are logical if they accept one contradiction. Once you get rid of the law of non-contradiction "anything is possible" and logical.

Here is a deductive proof for the existence of God:
There is a thing that is both both a father and a son to himself. Therefore God exists,

as do pixies, centaurs, ether, afterlives, angels, devils, souls, demigods, dragons. etc.

A & ¬A
(A v B) & (A v C) & (A v D) & (A v E) & (A v F) & (A v G)...
¬A
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B & C & D & E & F & G...

2007-03-12 14:22:48 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

yes, things that make sense, seem logical,,,, and those that dont,,,,,, dont,,,,,,, people with faith believe that their faith is logical,,,,, they dont walk around thinking they have a illogical faith,,,,,,,,, perhaps what defines logic to them might be different then what defines it to someone else
for example, i believe in reincarnation,,, to me it seems very logical,,,,,, the concept of it not existing doesnt ,,,,
i think a big problem is that some try to narrow down and define logic for others,,,,, and have even defined it as something you can absolutely prove, and classified illogical as things you cant,,,,, that really isnt what logic means

2007-03-12 14:18:08 · answer #10 · answered by dlin333 7 · 0 0

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