Mitt Romney, a devoted Mormon, wants to be President. How does he feel about The Mountain Meadows Massacre.?

Question

It was September 11, 1857. A wagon train of 160 settlers on their way to California was massacred by a bunch of Mormons dressed in Indian clothes. 17 children under the age of 8 were spared and lived to tell their story.
1st. They dressed as Indians but after five days they changed tactics.
2nd. Then they went a bit away ,dressed back into normal clothes and acted like the Rescue Party who had negotiated a deal with the"Indians".
3rd, Then confiscated all the guns as part of the deal for "saving" the travellers and Mormon dissidents( who were the reason for the attack in the first place).
4th. Took everybody off a mile or so and shot them all. 2 men got away but were eventually tracked down and killed a day or so later.
5th. Took the 17 children they had not killed back with them to Salt Lake City.
6th. Got away with it. After a publicized trial, with the childrens own testimony admitted into the court, only 1 man was convicted and shot, John D. Lee. ( pardoned by Church 1950)

It ended up being called the Mountain Meadows Massacre. The first time in U.S. history that U.S. citizens were massacred on U.S. soil by religious wackos. This event is even more significant because the total U.S. population at the time was much smaller.(I dont know the exact numbers, maybe only 30 million or so) In todays numbers it would be around 1400 dead.

This issue is especially important because Mitt is devoted to this "Church". They never ex-communicated any of the people who did this horrible crime except John D. Lee and his good standing in their "Church" was re-instated in the 1950's . So, Mitt, are you in denial of this whole mess too?

My Parents tried to raise me Catholic. By age 10 I had learned about the Inquisitions and all the Conquistadores and the bad stuff related to the "Church" and I immediatly demanded that I would no longer be forced to have anything to do with it. The mormons never took responsibility for this crime and even reinstated John D. Lee after his death. Brigham Young made numerous statements condoning this crime. In my opinion, the blood of these people rests on the heads of all members of this church who are aware of this crime and remain members anyway. That is why I publically asked Mitt this question.

My Parents tried to raise me Catholic. By age 10 I had learned about the Inquisitions and all the Conquistadores and the bad stuff related to the "Church" and I immediatly demanded that I would no longer be forced to have anything to do with it. The mormons never took responsibility for this crime and even reinstated John D. Lee after his death. Brigham Young made numerous statements condoning this crime. In my opinion, the blood of these people rests on the heads of all members of this church who are aware of this crime and remain members anyway. That is why I publically asked Mitt this question.

Answer 1

By your logic you must be in a constant state of overwhelming guilt. Yoiu think you should be held to account for the sins of all those who came before you?!
If you are religious then you have the blood of past persecutions on your hands.
if you are athiestic, then you have the blood of past persecutions on your hands.
if you are white, then you have the blood of past persecutions on your hands.
if you are asian then you have the blood of past persecutions on your hands.
if you are arab then you have the blood of past persecutions on your hands.
if you are educated then you have the blood of past persecutions on your hands.
if you are male then you have the blood of past persecutions on your hands.

You must be very upset. I will pray for you.

Answer 2

I think he would feel like all other members of the Church, full of sorrow. It was an unfortunate event and no one should be proud of it, just as no one should be proud when any member of their faith does something uncivilized and against humanity. This was not the church committing these crimes, but members of the church. The church has expressed its sorrow. I certainly don't hold the fact that there were numerous pedophile priests againt the Catholic church (although some high-ups did attempt to cover it up). That doesn't not reflect upon the good they have done and their doctrine (although you could argue the celibacy thing should go).

I'm not sure why this would be an issue for any member of the church. They are compassionate and care about the community. Bringing up something like this and pointing a finger is no more than an attempt to avoid the real issues or tear down a good man.

Answer 3

Mercy has its place, yet so does justice. I even have little question that Brigham youthful believed that justice had finally come to 3 of people who killed adult men, women human beings and young infants interior the Hawn's Mill bloodbath. The saints could no longer place self belief in the government to inforce justice. no longer between the mob that killed the prophet and his brother replaced into ever prosecuted for his homicide. no longer in basic terms replaced into the US government denying justice to the saints, they have been sending a militia to do away with Brigham youthful. on the instant we've an analogous concern to the Mountain Meadows bloodbath wherein harmless Muslims, adult men, women human beings and young infants, have become killed because of the fact of their proximity to terrorists. however the individuals of united statesa. seem pleased with that. i've got faith there is greater effective than a touch hypocrisy going on.

Answer 4

Mitt Romney had nothing to do with the Mountain Meadows Massacre! That is like saying Joe Biden, a devote Roman Catholic, wants to be President. How does he feels about the Crusades that his church led resulted in the deaths of hundreds of millions of non catholic or Christian believers. Anyone agree?

Answer 5

If he was there and if he participated, then we probably shouldn't elect him? By the way, you left the part out about how the US Army was headed outside of the USA to "deal with" the Mormons and how the president of the USA basically told Joseph Smith "That's not my problem" and told him to deal with it.

By the way, how should we deal with Illinois? They made it legal to kill Mormons, massacred them, burnt their homes, their press, their temple, and ran them out of their state in the middle of winter.

Should we line em all up and shoot them???

Lets see...by your logic:
No Catholic can ever be president (because of the Spanish inquisition and many other atrocities)

No White person (because of slavery)

No One From Illinois

No Jew (after all, they did kill Christ)

No American Indian (They killed many early settlers)

No one who's ever served in the Military (after the atrocities in Vietnam)

....we could go on and on and on.

.....but clearly you've got very faulty logic here.

And instead of beating around the bush, why don't you just come out and say "I hate Mormons"?

Answer 6

I'm pretty sure you are not going to able to use smear tactics on a candidate that is above reproach. Every religion, every nationality, every person associated with any group has something that could be construed to be detrimental towards their candidacy. There was a lady once who imbezzled funds from a school district that I attended. Because I attended school there, are you going to say that I'm somehow tainted by her dishonesty and criminal activity?

Answer 7

Just because people claim to be Mormon, certainly does not make them Mormon. If a bunch of Mormons murdered people no matter how young or old, no matter what the reason, no matter how they dressed, they clearly are not MORMONS!

Answer 8

Would a 100+ years ago the only reason to condemn him? Think we have enough problems to think about today and do not need to back in history, at least that far.

Answer 9

Well, I doubt this has a defining meaning for him. Romney, when governer of Massachusetts, backed stem cell research, gay rights, abortion rights, and other issues better associated with the democratice party. He know says he had a turn of heart and is against oll of these issues. Seems WAY to convenient to me, now, that he is running for President.

Answer 10

While I find the question to be extremely silly (we don't ask all of our white Presidential candidates if they renounce slavery), it brings up a point that I think is reasonable to think about: Is America ready for a Mormon President?

Mormonism is widely viewed as a cult in mainstream Christianity, a perversion of the Christ story. Its founder is viewed as a heretic and a whack job. I for one know that my church, which is not particularly fanatical about most things, would have extreme trouble voting for Mitt.